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Old 03-01-2013, 06:19 AM   #26
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In the last five years, we have seen the largest redistribution of wealth upwards in the history of mankind. Meanwhile, the Right Wing troglodytes blame the poor for their poverty.
For generational poverty that is entirely the product of reproducing every 15-16 years with multiple women while not obtaining the education necessary to gain access to jobs that would allow them to independently (that's without Gubmint' programs) pay to raise those children...what used to be a smaller % in the 1960s in poor black communities has now become the norm.........

See, I never looked at hillbilly trailer white trash and thought to myself that this will be my role in life when I'm all "grow'd up". Why ? Because I had a father and uncles involved in my life.
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For generational poverty that is entirely the product of reproducing every 15-16 years with multiple women while not obtaining the education necessary to gain access to jobs that would allow them to independently (that's without Gubmint' programs) pay to raise those children...what used to be a smaller % in the 1960s in poor black communities has now become the norm.........

See, I never looked at hillbilly trailer white trash and thought to myself that this will be my role in life when I'm all "grow'd up". Why ? Because I had a father and uncles involved in my life.
Your agenda is self-evident.
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Your agenda is self-evident.
You can cast aspersions all you want, but there's maybe no single demographic factor that chains someone to poverty more than being a member of a single parent household. Ignoring it and flipping the race card might be convenient if you want to play the politics game.

But when one group has 3 times as many (per capita) kids growing up with single parents as another group, it's pretty crazy to expect that any wealth divide between the two is going to narrow.
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You can cast aspersions all you want, but there's maybe no single demographic factor that chains someone to poverty more than being a member of a single parent household. Ignoring it and flipping the race card might be convenient if you want to play the politics game.

But when one group has 3 times as many (per capita) kids growing up with single parents as another group, it's pretty crazy to expect that any wealth divide between the two is going to narrow.
The Right practices the politics of delusion. One of its delusions is that we are a color blind society.
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The Right practices the politics of delusion. One of its delusions is that we are a color blind society.
"Are" and "Should be" are two different things.

An interesting read:

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Needless to say, people have been having this argument for over a half century. The only thing that changes is that inner city minority families keep having more and more trouble (just as the noted racist DP Moynihan tried to warn so many people about)

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Explain to me how opportunity hasn't been provided since the early 1960's for African Americans......
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I don't know man, maybe it's because of their skin color. Or perhaps their hatred of God?

I really can't think of any event in US history that would put african americans or native americans at some sort of cultural disadvantage compared to whites or other minorities.

And surely the last 30 years of neoliberal economic policy favors the poor, so why aren't they getting ahead?





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Here's the real question:


Has your income skyrocketed recently? If not - what's wrong with you? Is your skin color changing?







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Here's the real question:


Has your income skyrocketed recently? If not - what's wrong with you? Is your skin color changing?







On a personal note, yes, it HAS. Most people pretend to be good looking, wealthy and have a hot wife/gf on the "INTERNETS"....for me it's reality. But I appreciate EVERYDAY my current situation as I have plenty of family and friends who are still struggling day in and day out and I grew up with 3 blocks of section 8 housing literally 200 yards from my casa.... And my success is attributable to BOTH of my parents influences on me as well as a 6 year stint in the USAF; combine that with a constant desire to learn, plan and focus on new challenges and I've been fairly fortunate to have preparation mesh with opportunity. But enough about me...........explain to me why NFL and NBA teams are made up by a disproportionate # of African American males and there is no mention of that by the LEFTISTS..............
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On a personal note, yes, it HAS. Most people pretend to be good looking, wealthy and have a hot wife/gf on the "INTERNETS"....for me it's reality. But I appreciate EVERYDAY my current situation as I have plenty of family and friends who are still struggling day in and day out and I grew up with 3 blocks of section 8 housing literally 200 yards from my casa.... And my success is attributable to BOTH of my parents influences on me as well as a 6 year stint in the USAF; combine that with a constant desire to learn, plan and focus on new challenges and I've been fairly fortunate to have preparation mesh with opportunity. But enough about me...........explain to me why NFL and NBA teams are made up by a disproportionate # of African American males and there is no mention of that by the LEFTISTS..............
Burden of proof is on you, nancy.

Your answer is "because they're black". You provide the proof.
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Please explain to me why NFL and NBA teams are made up by a disproportionate # of African American males and there is no mention of that by the LEFTISTS..............

Since you have already cast your view that you think you know what my feelings are on the subject, please explain to me how YOU think this has come to be the 'norm' in the NFL and NBA...........

Why are leftists so quick to point out "White privilege" for disproportionalities when it comes to wealth and education, but they won't touch the question broached by me with a 10foot pole?
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Please explain to me why NFL and NBA teams are made up by a disproportionate # of African American males and there is no mention of that by the LEFTISTS..............

Since you have already cast your view that you think you know what my feelings are on the subject, please explain to me how YOU think this has come to be the 'norm' in the NFL and NBA...........

Why are leftists so quick to point out "White privilege" for disproportionalities when it comes to wealth and education, but they won't touch the question broached by me with a 10foot pole?
Not how it works. I'm certainly prepared to discuss it, since I've saved all my college research papers and just so happened to have done a little looking into the subject. But you raised a question, implied your opinion by attempting to relate demographic information on professional sports teams to general population demographics. But you didn't support your point with any FACTS. Once you do that, we can have this discussion. But until then, you are what you post. And you are an angry, infantile, clueless, scared little boy who is flinging **** at the wall to see what sticks.

Step up to the plate and be a man. Back up your claims with some sort of clear thought.
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Maybe it's time to turn the hat around, pull the pants up above the ass, go to work and bring home a pay check.
Wow, stereotype much?
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Please explain to me why NFL and NBA teams are made up by a disproportionate # of African American males and there is no mention of that by the LEFTISTS..............

Since you have already cast your view that you think you know what my feelings are on the subject, please explain to me how YOU think this has come to be the 'norm' in the NFL and NBA...........

Why are leftists so quick to point out "White privilege" for disproportionalities when it comes to wealth and education, but they won't touch the question broached by me with a 10foot pole?

What in hell does the NBA and NFL have to do with this topic. Most players are black, so what. That's because those are the players who were deemed by coaches, management, scouts, whatever, to be the better players. If LeBron James was white, would that change anything? No. Teams care about having the best talent, they don't care what color. Again, what does team rosters have to do with wage inequality.
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Wow, stereotype much?
Just calling a spade a spade.
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To "call a spade a spade" is to speak honestly and directly about a topic, specifically topics that others may avoid speaking about due to their sensitivity or embarrassing nature.

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Not how it works. I'm certainly prepared to discuss it, since I've saved all my college research papers and just so happened to have done a little looking into the subject. But you raised a question, implied your opinion by attempting to relate demographic information on professional sports teams to general population demographics. But you didn't support your point with any FACTS. Once you do that, we can have this discussion. But until then, you are what you post. And you are an angry, infantile, clueless, scared little boy who is flinging **** at the wall to see what sticks.

Step up to the plate and be a man. Back up your claims with some sort of clear thought.
Say what? You can either answer the question posed or simply change the subject. So you don't agree that Black males are disproportionately represented in the NBA and NFL relative to Blacks being only 13-14% of the overall population.....interesting. Further, your intellectual dishonesty is clear as day with your inability to put in typed word your rationale for why the NBA and NFL is overly represented with AA males. You're nothing more than a PC zombie.

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What in hell does the NBA and NFL have to do with this topic. Most players are black, so what. That's because those are the players who were deemed by coaches, management, scouts, whatever, to be the better players. If LeBron James was white, would that change anything? No. Teams care about having the best talent, they don't care what color. Again, what does team rosters have to do with wage inequality.
It's a roundabout, sports related way for those who are asking the question to come about to the same underlying conclusion as I do with regard to wealth differentiation. (and obviously you didn't read the entire thread...and if you did it's simply over your head)
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What in hell does the NBA and NFL have to do with this topic. Most players are black, so what. That's because those are the players who were deemed by coaches, management, scouts, whatever, to be the better players. If LeBron James was white, would that change anything? No. Teams care about having the best talent, they don't care what color. Again, what does team rosters have to do with wage inequality.
Let's use your line of thinking: So if fortune 500 companies feel as though white males are the best candidates to run their operations, why then is there always the desperate attempt by the LEFTISTS to constantly spew venom towards those companies for "under represented" women and minorities?

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Say what? You can either answer the question posed or simply change the subject. So you don't agree that Black males are disproportionately represented in the NBA and NFL relative to Blacks being only 13-14% of the overall population.....interesting. Further, your intellectual dishonesty is clear as day with your inability to put in typed word your rationale for why the NBA and NFL is overly represented with AA males. You're nothing more than a PC zombie.
So, you got nothing, eh?

Thought so.

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So, you got nothing, eh?

Thought so.

I've got nothing? You refuse to answer the question posed because even someone of your average intellect realizes that if you do answer that question in an honest and logical way you'll wind up supporting the underlying argument that you espouse to be absolutely offended by. But thanks for 'playing' ...NEXT!

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I've got nothing? You refuse to answer the question posed because even someone of your average intellect realizes that if you do answer that question in an honest and logical way you'll wind up supporting the underlying argument that you espouse to be absolutely offended by. But thanks for 'playing' ...NEXT!
Don't be afraid to posts facts and stats. They're your friend if what you're saying is actually a well-supported argument. But you wouldn't know anything about that.

You still haven't even answered your own question, let alone provided support. Are you scared of a little conversation?

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"The wealth gap between blacks and whites has nearly tripled over the past 25 years, due largely to inequality in home ownership, income, education and inheritances, according to a new study by Brandeis University.

That type of inequality can be a drag on economic growth for everyone, said Thomas Shapiro, director of the university's Institute on Assets and Social Policy, which conducted the research."
- See more at: http://money.cnn.com/2013/02/27/news....bOWrZ32X.dpuf
with all of the programs/laws/affirmative actions over the past 25 years?

suggests that mandates won't work.
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Don't be afraid to posts facts and stats. They're your friend if what you're saying is actually a well-supported argument. But you wouldn't know anything about that.

You still haven't even answered your own question, let alone provided support. Are you scared of a little conversation?

This 'conversation' would be more worthwhile if the person who I was having it with could answer the question that has been repeated numerous times within this thread. But since he is unable to or simply refuses to, I' ll have to move on. Is there no leftist capable of answering this question? Footsteps, etc

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