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Old 02-22-2013, 08:27 AM   #26
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I hate to say it, but if Moreno finishes the Baltimore game, we win walking away. He was playing solid (for our system) by the end of the year. I still think he should be our #2 back - but we need to find a new #1.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:38 AM   #27
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If you inject stem cells isn't that an attempt to treat a degeneration of the cartilage? Sound like a long term problem career ending problem vs a quick fix.
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Didnt Kobe do this? He's hardly slowing down.

Plus, i dont know that this is "surgery"
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:40 AM   #28
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Am I the only one who doesn't mind having a completely new stable of running backs next season (Hillman excepted)? I like Moreno and McGahee, and they will do fine if both come back next year, but I wouldn't cry if they were gone.
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Am I the only one who doesn't mind having a completely new stable of running backs next season (Hillman excepted)? I like Moreno and McGahee, and they will do fine if both come back next year, but I wouldn't cry if they were gone.
I have supported Moreno since the get-go and was one of the only advocates of Willis when we signed him as a free agent. That being said, I would not mind a complete revamp. Willis put the ball on the ground too many times last year and who knows what Moreno's health will be like. Can't necessarily rely on them.

Give me a Le'veon Bell or Stefan Taylor (preferably the former) in round 3 and bring in a free agent who will come affordably.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:39 AM   #30
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If we cut Moreno and McGahee, how much money would that save?
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:05 AM   #31
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I've said it before about Moreno that he has a lot in common with a woman or whiskey. Just when you need them the most your left high and dry. He got hurt in the biggest game of the year and I believe if he didn't Denver would of won easily.
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Gotta let Moreno go. If he's turning to stem cells this early in his career his knees are already garbage. Unreliable since we drafted him, slow and a bust. Time to move on. Willis I'm on the fence on. I think he could be still salvageable, maybe not a starter though. Hillman yet to be seen. I think they need to make some move one way or the other..IMO...

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If we cut Moreno and McGahee, how much money would that save?
Not much in terms of cap dollars.....maybe $2-3 mil combined if they're lucky, depending on which sources you trust. But then they'd just have to sign 2 other guys anyway, which would eat up at least that much if they were anything more than bottom feeders. In which case, what would be the point really?

Keep them both and see how they look in camp/preseason. Lose Ball. Draft one in the middle to late rounds and pick up another as an undrafted FA. Make a move for Dwyer.
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Not much in terms of cap dollars.....maybe $2-3 mil combined if they're lucky, depending on which sources you trust. But then they'd just have to sign 2 other guys anyway, which would eat up at least that much if they were anything more than bottom feeders. In which case, what would be the point really?

Keep them both and see how they look in camp/preseason. Lose Ball. Draft one in the middle to late rounds and pick up another as an undrafted FA. Make a move for Dwyer.
Id rather sign one in FA and draft one. But i guess that depends on how much you trust Hillman
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Am I the only one who doesn't mind having a completely new stable of running backs next season (Hillman excepted)? I like Moreno and McGahee, and they will do fine if both come back next year, but I wouldn't cry if they were gone.
Why not? They aren't elite backs. I would love to see a new stable of RB's.
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Am I the only one who doesn't mind having a completely new stable of running backs next season (Hillman excepted)? I like Moreno and McGahee, and they will do fine if both come back next year, but I wouldn't cry if they were gone.
Maybe have Jeremiah Johnson and Mario Fanin get some playing time next year.
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Maybe have Jeremiah Johnson and Mario Fanin get some playing time next year.
I'm not putting any hope in either of those
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I'm not putting any hope in either of those
In any of them. Hillman didn't show burst or push.
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In any of them. Hillman didn't show burst or push.
I'll give a guy who was the youngest dude in the league the benefit of the doubt. And i disagree he showed no burst. However, he wasnt very elusive. But he was noticeably faster than our other backs
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This is so upsetting I'm going to go get sauced.
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I'll give a guy who was the youngest dude in the league the benefit of the doubt. And i disagree he showed no burst. However, he wasnt very elusive. But he was noticeably faster than our other backs
He's weak, and one dimensional; sucks against the blitz and doesn't have the sand to pound out yards after contact. Speed is great but the entire league is fast. Dude needs to break a tackle every so often or put the nose down and go through a defender for an extra 2 yards. He was handed the game to put it away against the Ravens and failed. True competitors do better than 4 yds on 3 carries in that situation.
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Maybe have Jeremiah Johnson and Mario Fanin get some playing time next year.
Why bother. Lets get some real RB's in here.

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I'll give a guy who was the youngest dude in the league the benefit of the doubt. And i disagree he showed no burst. However, he wasnt very elusive. But he was noticeably faster than our other backs
He needs to bulk up. He should be better this upcoming season.
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