Knowshon Moreno had knee surgery after the season

[pricejj]

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...-season/18540/


"Moreno underwent a treatment to insert stem cells harvested from bone marrow in his pelvis into his right knee. It is the same knee Moreno tore the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) to end his 2011 season."

[underrated29]

From this day forth I hereby declare him as kneeshon Moreno

[theAPAOps5]

That is no bueno

[DHallblows]

CUT HIM!














Sorry, I thought that was the established reaction to a Knowshon thread around here...

[Ratboy]

We need a running back or 2. There is no way we can rely on Moreno or Willis through the season. I really like Ronnie Hillman and believe he'll contribute a lot more next season, but we need that every down back.

I would like to see the Broncos pursue Ahmad Bradshaw or Steven Jackson.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by Ratboy

We need a running back or 2. There is no way we can rely on Moreno or Willis through the season. I really like Ronnie Hillman and believe he'll contribute a lot more next season, but we need that every down back.

I would like to see the Broncos pursue Ahmad Bradshaw or Steven Jackson.

What are you going pay them with? Currently less than 4 million to spend after Clady is tagged as well as needing to find a couple DT's and some other players that are UFA from last years roster.

What are you going to do in 1-2 years when they are washed up.

Super easy to throw out stuff to see if it sticks, but much harder to plan it out.

[SlyEli]

Originally Posted by lonestar

What are you going pay them with? Currently less than 4 million to spend after Clady is tagged as well as needing to find a couple DT's and some other players that are UFA from last years roster.

What are you going to do in 1-2 years when they are washed up.

Super easy to throw out stuff to see if it sticks, but much harder to plan it out.

Cuts are coming soon...after getting rid of the wastes of money like dj there'll be more space

[ZONA]

Originally Posted by Ratboy

We need a running back or 2. There is no way we can rely on Moreno or Willis through the season. I really like Ronnie Hillman and believe he'll contribute a lot more next season, but we need that every down back.

I would like to see the Broncos pursue Ahmad Bradshaw or Steven Jackson.

I doubt that's going to happen. The one area in the draft where rookies can have an immediate impact is RB. They're are guys all over the draft who can come in and get it done at RB for us. You can't just look at the projected top RB's in college. You also are going to see several late round players come up big, happens all the time. We used to be very good at finding those players. We obviously need to get better at it. I hate the idea of trying to get Jackson or Bradshaw. If they were 10 years younger, maybe.

Ball is junk - Moreno unreliable due to injury - McGahee unreliable due to age - Hillman can't take a full load - Hester not starting material.

Find a few good backs in the draft.

[SlyEli]

Originally Posted by ZONA

I doubt that's going to happen. The one area in the draft where rookies can have an immediate impact is RB. They're are guys all over the draft who can come in and get it done at RB for us. You can't just look at the projected top RB's in college. You also are going to see several late round players come up big, happens all the time. We used to be very good at finding those players. We obviously need to get better at it. I hate the idea of trying to get Jackson or Bradshaw. If they were 10 years younger, maybe.

Ball is junk - Moreno unreliable due to injury - McGahee unreliable due to age - Hillman can't take a full load - Hester not starting material.

Find a few good backs in the draft.

You realize Bradshaw is 26, right?

[ZONA]

Originally Posted by elibroncofan

You realize Bradshaw is 26, right?

Yes, I was just clumping him with Jackson. Bradshaw is a nice back but at what his price will be, I don't think you'll get the best value. And he's about 190 pounds. Again, we already have our change of pace guy in Hillman. I think Bradshaw is obviously a bit more physical then Hillman but you're not going to pay Bradshaw his dollars while paying Hillman.....and still need to get that bigger 220 pound type of back that can still crank out some long runs. Would I rather have Bradshaw then Hillman, sure. But I don't think they're going to go that direction in terms of a back. I'm hoping they're looking for somebody with a little more size but the same shiftiness and speed.

[gunns]

Originally Posted by Ratboy

We need a running back or 2. There is no way we can rely on Moreno or Willis through the season. I really like Ronnie Hillman and believe he'll contribute a lot more next season, but we need that every down back.

I would like to see the Broncos pursue Ahmad Bradshaw or Steven Jackson.

If you want an "every down" back I don't believe Bradshaw is the guy. In his 6 years he's only played all 16 games once, never starting all. He is a decent receiver though.

[bowtown]

Originally Posted by lonestar

What are you going pay them with? Currently less than 4 million to spend after Clady is tagged as well as needing to find a couple DT's and some other players that are UFA from last years roster.

What are you going to do in 1-2 years when they are washed up.

Super easy to throw out stuff to see if it sticks, but much harder to plan it out.

You know what would be hilarious? If you just said the same stupid **** in every single post you make and then post like 50 times a day in every thread on the OM.

Oh you already do that?

[TheReverend]

Honestly, I just assumed he has a knee surgery every weekend.

[elsid13]

If you inject stem cells isn't that an attempt to treat a degeneration of the cartilage? Sound like a long term problem career ending problem vs a quick fix.

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by elsid13

If you inject stem cells isn't that an attempt to treat a degeneration of the cartilage? Sound like a long term problem career ending problem vs a quick fix.

If that were the case, I'm sure we would've heard something by now. That's not exactly something you can just hide, especially for a guy like Moreno that's been under the microscope for the last few years.

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

If that were the case, I'm sure we would've heard something by now. That's not exactly something you can just hide, especially for a guy like Moreno that's been under the microscope for the last few years.

Maybe the knee hasn't responded, and this is the first attempt to fix it. I think it odd that they are inject stem cells if there wasn't a problem or maybe it a Crossfit thing..

[Bacchus]

He is scheduled ot make over $3 million this year. Could be interesting, I think he will have vaule in the FA market if Denver does not wish to pay him that.

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by Bacchus

He is scheduled ot make over $3 million this year. Could be interesting, I think he will have vaule in the FA market if Denver does not wish to pay him that.

I'm not sure where you got that number, but he's only scheduled to make $1.7 mil next year. Maybe his cap hit?

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

I'm not sure where you got that number, but he's only scheduled to make $1.7 mil next year. Maybe his cap hit?

Moreno also carries a rather hefty $3.287 million salary-cap charge in the upcoming season, which for a team looking to create some cap room in the coming weeks and with at least some uncertainty of Moreno's availability, may get a look for a trim.


Read more: NFL draft could cure Broncos' injury concerns at running back, O-line - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz2LdSGH9hD


I gave up a long time ago figuring out how they come up with salaries. Cap hit is probably what it is.

[socalorado]

I think he gets cut. and i cant believe i am saying this, but i dont want him to!
He really improved as the year went on, and he deserves to be given a chance next year. But i see that money going elsewhere.

[SlyEli]

Moreno is decent, but not worth 3 mil a year. He hasn't finished either of the last two seasons due to knee injuries. He's better than he used to be, but still his only real value is in the passing game. I think they should let him go

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

If that were the case, I'm sure we would've heard something by now. That's not exactly something you can just hide, especially for a guy like Moreno that's been under the microscope for the last few years.

Honestly I kinda feel like EVERYONE has stopped giving a **** about him.

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by Bacchus

Moreno also carries a rather hefty $3.287 million salary-cap charge in the upcoming season, which for a team looking to create some cap room in the coming weeks and with at least some uncertainty of Moreno's availability, may get a look for a trim.

Salary is only $1.7 million, cap hit is the $3.3 million you mention. Since the Broncos are something of a cash budget operation they care a lot more about the former number than the latter.

[Lestat]

Originally Posted by elsid13

If you inject stem cells isn't that an attempt to treat a degeneration of the cartilage? Sound like a long term problem career ending problem vs a quick fix.

no, it's generally used as a way to stimulate the nerves and tissue around the area to avoid further surgeries and ailments.
it's basically used like a glucosomine treatment to help the area feel better and improve functionality without a ton of invasive surgeries or scopes.

[TonyR]

This report isn't very clear. Did he really have corrective "surgery" that we should be concerned about or is this just really more of a "treatment"? I'm leaning more towards the latter, but perhaps be had both?