Drafting a Mike early a foregone conclusion? Not necessarily - Page 3 - The Orange Mane

g6matty · 02-14-2013, 07:19 PM

why on earth does any body think johnson has any ability to take over the mike spot. hes an undrafted player who is a special teams body.

what about keith rivers we could try to turn his career around like we did with bunkley and tried to do with that DE last year i cant remember his name he was from jacksonville though.

u think del rio and fox could save him?

Lestat · 02-14-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Hate to break it to the draftniks, but the Broncos starting MLB in 2013 is already on the roster.

the hell they are! we need upgrades at multiple positions and MLB being the biggest one to help the overall defense.

NFLBRONCO · 02-14-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

the hell they are! we need upgrades at multiple positions and MLB being the biggest one to help the overall defense.

While we agree with you. To go as far and say 100% sure thing FO thinks so too I'm not that confident in that case.

TheReverend · 02-14-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by g6matty

why on earth does any body think johnson has any ability to take over the mike spot. hes an undrafted player who is a special teams body.

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Originally Posted by g6matty

what about keith rivers we could try to turn his career around like we did with bunkley and tried to do with that DE last year i cant remember his name he was from jacksonville though.

Derrick Harvey

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Originally Posted by g6matty

u think del rio and fox could save him?

Rivers couldn't handle the middle

broncosteven · 02-14-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

I honestly think the need has been blown way out proportion. Our defense was damn good with Mike-by-committee once Joe Mays was taken out. Running back and interior o-line are much bigger needs in my opinion.

As the offseason has gone on I 1st thought C was a priorty, then MLB but I agree as of this second I think RB is 1st priority then everything else. I would hope that Elway learned something from Bobby Turner and can find one in the 2nd or later rounds.

This staff has proved they can evaluate their players, if they feel comfortable with what we have on the team we can go BPA in the 1st round which would be big down the road.

Man-Goblin · 02-14-2013, 09:10 PM

You guys will feel better when you finally admit it is time for Champ to switch to MLB.

Taco John · 02-14-2013, 10:16 PM

I have lost confidence in DJ Williams, and I certainly don't think he's the firey leader that we need at the center of our defense. I personally would like to see us get Urlacher and then draft a guy in either an early or mid round.

Play2win · 02-14-2013, 10:37 PM

We need a MLB that, just like a good RB, has great vision.

FireFly · 02-14-2013, 10:44 PM

I REALLY wanted us to draft a MLB in the first, but the more I think about it with all the nickel that we're playing maybe MLB isn't all that an important? Certainly not enough to reach. I think we can safely pick the BPA and not look back.

CEH · 02-15-2013, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

Michael Mauti from Penn State. Not the crazy kid.

Damn the names are so similar. The ND kid is bat crazy

Rohirrim · 02-15-2013, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I have lost confidence in DJ Williams, and I certainly don't think he's the firey leader that we need at the center of our defense. I personally would like to see us get Urlacher and then draft a guy in either an early or mid round.

I don't think Brian would play for another team. If they try and trade him, he'll just retire.

BroncoBeavis · 02-15-2013, 07:27 AM

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With DJ admittedly slowing down (he says he's slowing down).

That's what happens when they take away a man's robopiss.

The more we get into the offseason, the more I want a cagey vet at MLB or SS. We have a ton of athletes on D but not enough leadership.

BroncoBeavis · 02-15-2013, 07:41 AM

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I don't think Brian would play for another team. If they try and trade him, he'll just retire.

He's a UFA, so it won't be a trade. I'd hope maybe if BU decided to test the market, Elway could use the old Jedi used-car mind trick on Urlacher and remind him that he doesn't have the years left to spend on a new coach and rebuild in Chicago.

Baba Booey · 02-15-2013, 08:08 AM

I've heard people compare Kevin Minter to Bobby Wagner. If we're taking a mike at #28, that's the ticket.

cmhargrove · 02-15-2013, 08:16 AM

This will be an interesting draft for sure. Lots of potential value picks at the bottom of round 1. I would say "bolster the trenches" at D-tackle first, but our coaches have also shown they are happy with "role players" like Vickerson, Bannan, and Unrein.

We have needed a leader in the middle for way, way too long. I love what Von and Wesley bring on the outside, but a solid leader in the middle could take us to the next level (which is what we need).

I don't know too much about Mauti, but if he has been a productive leader at Penn State, I'm all for it. I don't care about his injury, or his perceived "draft status," I say reach for the kid. Take him with whatever pick necessary and lock him in. He sounds like the kind of player (when healthy) that can solidify MLB in both the run game, and the passing game.

Agamemnon · 02-15-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by g6matty

why on earth does any body think johnson has any ability to take over the mike spot. hes an undrafted player who is a special teams body.

There have been plenty of undrafted players that have become good or even great NFL starters. Who knows if he will, but I'm not going to outright dismiss the possibility.

Agamemnon · 02-15-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I don't think Brian would play for another team. If they try and trade him, he'll just retire.

If a team with a good shot at a Super Bowl comes knocking I tend to think Urlacher would listen.

rugbythug · 02-15-2013, 08:47 AM

IMO Eddie Lacy is the guy we need. Ready to play, his best years will coincide with our peak

JLesSPE · 02-15-2013, 09:00 AM

Urlacher is toast. He's incredibly slow, like Gilbert Brown slow. I'd be pissed if Denver signed him. A quality MLB in his prime is way too costly, old and slow won't be an upgrade, the only options I see are to grow the talent we have and/or draft someone.

Kaylore · 02-15-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by g6matty

why on earth does any body think johnson has any ability to take over the mike spot. hes an undrafted player who is a special teams body.

I only say it because the staff and players seem high on him. And this staff and group of players are less prone to doing that than in years past. This isn't "Corey Jackson can start because he's good at pickup basketball" stuff. The staff really likes him. It is a long shot, but this isn't crap I pulled out of my butt.

pricejj · 02-15-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

the hell they are! we need upgrades at multiple positions and MLB being the biggest one to help the overall defense.

MLB isn't the reason why the Broncos lost in the playoffs.

Can you remember who the starting MLB was from the years Elway won the Super Bowl? Chances are, he can't either.

The Broncos already said they are going to give Nate Irving a chance to start. By the talk around here, the Broncos should be spending a 1st or 2nd round draft pick every year trying to find the next Ray Lewis or Ed Reed. Forget about player development, and the fact that Fox notoriously doesn't play young players...we need to waste more draft picks now!!!11!!11

Irving is a first team All-American MLB, but no, toss him, Keith Brooking, DJ Williams, and Danny Trevathan out, and reach on an unheralded, rookie LB (with average athleticism) in the 1st round to start. Yeah, that'll win us the Super Bowl.

It's Allen Aldridege btw.

Requiem · 02-15-2013, 10:54 AM

Actually, Mike Klis speculated that Irving will have a chance to start based on the assumption that old man Keith won't be back and that Irving's base salary for 2013 is much lower than DJ Williams, who is a likely cap casualty or restructure. Nobody from the Denver Broncos has talked about Irving.

DENVERDUI55 · 02-15-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

It's Allen Aldridege btw.

That is only 50 percent correct. You should Google 98 broncos.

2KBack · 02-15-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

MLB isn't the reason why the Broncos lost in the playoffs.

Can you remember who the starting MLB was from the years Elway won the Super Bowl? Chances are, he can't either.

The Broncos already said they are going to give Nate Irving a chance to start. By the talk around here, the Broncos should be spending a 1st or 2nd round draft pick every year trying to find the next Ray Lewis or Ed Reed. Forget about player development, and the fact that Fox notoriously doesn't play young players...we need to waste more draft picks now!!!11!!11

Irving is a first team All-American MLB, but no, toss him, Keith Brooking, DJ Williams, and Danny Trevathan out, and bring in an unheralded rookie LB to start. Yeah, that'll win us the Super Bowl.

Te'o and Minter are good, but not that good.

It's Allen Aldridege btw.

only for one year, Glen Cadrez the other

Heyneck · 02-15-2013, 11:11 AM

In Irving I trust!!! If we end up going MLB in the draft so be it. But we have a bigger problem with OL and CB depth. Right now I would prefer OL, then CB and then MLB. But I could also look at the situation as us needing a competent 3rd WR and getting one of those new super freak TE. Was pissed when we passed on Rudolph by taking Moore. Still not mad a the Moore pick, just that we had our shot at a really good TE when that years team and QB could have really used one.

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Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,824 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Actually, Mike Klis speculated that Irving will have a chance to start based on the assumption that old man Keith won't be back and that Irving's base salary for 2013 is much lower than DJ Williams, who is a likely cap casualty or restructure. Nobody from the Denver Broncos has talked about Irving. Last edited by Requiem; 02-15-2013 at 10:56 AM..

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02-14-2013, 07:19 PM	#51
g6matty Defensive Coordinator follow my instagram matthew__eck Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 759	why on earth does any body think johnson has any ability to take over the mike spot. hes an undrafted player who is a special teams body. what about keith rivers we could try to turn his career around like we did with bunkley and tried to do with that DE last year i cant remember his name he was from jacksonville though. u think del rio and fox could save him?

02-14-2013, 09:10 PM	#56
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,601 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	You guys will feel better when you finally admit it is time for Champ to switch to MLB.

02-14-2013, 10:16 PM	#57
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I have lost confidence in DJ Williams, and I certainly don't think he's the firey leader that we need at the center of our defense. I personally would like to see us get Urlacher and then draft a guy in either an early or mid round.

02-14-2013, 10:37 PM	#58
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,611 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	We need a MLB that, just like a good RB, has great vision.

02-14-2013, 10:44 PM	#59
FireFly Ring of Famer The window is open! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,695	I REALLY wanted us to draft a MLB in the first, but the more I think about it with all the nickel that we're playing maybe MLB isn't all that an important? Certainly not enough to reach. I think we can safely pick the BPA and not look back.

02-15-2013, 08:08 AM	#64
Baba Booey twitter: @dpieza HURRY HURRY! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North of the Wall Posts: 2,075 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	I've heard people compare Kevin Minter to Bobby Wagner. If we're taking a mike at #28, that's the ticket.

02-15-2013, 08:16 AM	#65
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,422 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	This will be an interesting draft for sure. Lots of potential value picks at the bottom of round 1. I would say "bolster the trenches" at D-tackle first, but our coaches have also shown they are happy with "role players" like Vickerson, Bannan, and Unrein. We have needed a leader in the middle for way, way too long. I love what Von and Wesley bring on the outside, but a solid leader in the middle could take us to the next level (which is what we need). I don't know too much about Mauti, but if he has been a productive leader at Penn State, I'm all for it. I don't care about his injury, or his perceived "draft status," I say reach for the kid. Take him with whatever pick necessary and lock him in. He sounds like the kind of player (when healthy) that can solidify MLB in both the run game, and the passing game.

02-15-2013, 08:47 AM	#68
rugbythug Church Eyes. Salty Dog Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,821 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Miller	IMO Eddie Lacy is the guy we need. Ready to play, his best years will coincide with our peak

02-15-2013, 09:00 AM	#69
JLesSPE Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Republic, MO Posts: 419	Urlacher is toast. He's incredibly slow, like Gilbert Brown slow. I'd be pissed if Denver signed him. A quality MLB in his prime is way too costly, old and slow won't be an upgrade, the only options I see are to grow the talent we have and/or draft someone.

02-15-2013, 11:11 AM	#75
Heyneck Ring of Famer None is a family member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cali, Colombia Posts: 2,277 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	In Irving I trust!!! If we end up going MLB in the draft so be it. But we have a bigger problem with OL and CB depth. Right now I would prefer OL, then CB and then MLB. But I could also look at the situation as us needing a competent 3rd WR and getting one of those new super freak TE. Was pissed when we passed on Rudolph by taking Moore. Still not mad a the Moore pick, just that we had our shot at a really good TE when that years team and QB could have really used one.