OT: When did an 18% tip become mandatory?

[broncocalijohn]

Good service gets 15% and I won't let the insiders tell me that it went up. The rate is the same since I have been tipping (California has servers at minimum wage). I know waiters only claim tips on the credit card payment so I always try to tip with cash. That way if they think I am not cool with following the bull**** of "it is now 18% so get with it!", they at least know they keep my tip and don't claim it. Plus, service industry is required to pay taxes on 8% of their tips. So if they average 10% after paying out busboys, cooks, etc., they still have 2% of tax free money.
If I get awesome service or something free (birthday cake), I will tip 20%. Bad service will get 5% so they know I didn't forget and they sucked big time.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

I don't get why people get bent about stuff like this. If you don't want to pay extra for service, here's a crazy novel idea; DON'T GET SERVED!!!!!!

There is some inconsistency, though. You're served anytime you do anything at any business and you don't tip everyone in every industry.

Here's an interesting question. My wife works at a salon, but when she was starting out she worked at a crappy great clips. So gentlemen, when great clips has a sale on haircuts 7.99 per haircut, what do you consider a good tip on those sales?

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by Pseudofool

Then why'd you make the joke? Who finds that funny?

It's like saying I have a black friend, so I can make racist jokes. Give me a break.

All I know is I have a Mormon friend here and he even likes Star Trek.

I found it funny btw.

[ludo21]

double the tax add a little if their good...... what percent is that?

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

There is some inconsistency, though. You're served anytime you do anything at any business and you don't tip everyone in every industry.

Here's an interesting question. My wife works at a salon, but when she was starting out she worked at a crappy great clips. So gentlemen, when great clips has a sale on haircuts 7.99 per haircut, what do you consider a good tip on those sales?

I always tip for a haircut. My grandpa took me to a local barber my whole life and told me since these people provide a service, they too should go and get tips. I go to a local barber and he charges 12 bucks a haircut. I give him 15 bucks usually and leave. If my hair is super long and crazy, I tip more.

When I moved to Colorado I was in Winter Park near the national park and lived out there for about 8 days. I didn't wash or bath besides going in the stream a few times and my hair was pretty much toast and dreaded and looked like red dingleberries. I hiked back into town, went to a salon first thing in the morning. Haircuts were 15 bucks, but I gave the girl 30 because of what a mess I was.

Always tip for a haircut.

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by Pseudofool

Then why'd you make the joke? Who finds that funny?

It's like saying I have a black friend, so I can make racist jokes. Give me a break.

Racist jokes aren't funny? Good luck with that one.

[Dedhed]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

There is some inconsistency, though. You're served anytime you do anything at any business and you don't tip everyone in every industry.

Not inconsistent at all. Tips are not factored into the pay of service providers in other industries.

Here's an interesting question. My wife works at a salon, but when she was starting out she worked at a crappy great clips. So gentlemen, when great clips has a sale on haircuts 7.99 per haircut, what do you consider a good tip on those sales?

200%

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Requiem

I always tip for a haircut. My grandpa took me to a local barber my whole life and told me since these people provide a service, they too should go and get tips. I go to a local barber and he charges 12 bucks a haircut. I give him 15 bucks usually and leave. If my hair is super long and crazy, I tip more.

When I moved to Colorado I was in Winter Park near the national park and lived out there for about 8 days. I didn't wash or bath besides going in the stream a few times and my hair was pretty much toast and dreaded and looked like red dingleberries. I hiked back into town, went to a salon first thing in the morning. Haircuts were 15 bucks, but I gave the girl 30 because of what a mess I was.

Always tip for a haircut.

What would you tip on a 7.99 haircut? There is no right answer (unless you ask my wife).

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by ludo21

double the tax add a little if their good...... what percent is that?

Depends on where you live. Every state tax is different and local meals taxes vary.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by ludo21

double the tax add a little if their good...... what percent is that?

In California, that just helped the wait staff for retards that can't figure it out. It went up another .25% to 8% in OC. Some places 8.25% or 8.5%.
I think we should use that logic and move to Oregon!

[Pseudofool]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Because it was funny. I have three reps with "lol" in them and I put that joke up thirty minutes ago. And it's not like this thread is "rockin" or anything.

I'm sure if you made any kind of joke ripping liberals, or people who study humanities or environmental concerns or social work, you'd have loling all over the place. And that's part of the problem.

Really your joke isn't clever, it's another english major in a coffee shop routine.

Your joke, and the people who laugh at it, play into the narrative about those people who follow a career path that might end up leading to serving tables part time, maybe for the rest of their lives. It's a sad truth that people with non-business degrees, esp. in the humanities and social services, can't find work in their field. These people are already disspirited by the fact they are over-educated for waiting tables. I'm sure if you waited tables, you ran into many of these type of people. So you laugh at them. Well done.

[Pseudofool]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Racist jokes aren't funny? Good luck with that one.

No, they are. They're also racist, though.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Pseudofool

You'd just have to pay more for food. Tipping zero percent is never okay.

It's definitely OK if the person spills a drink on you, gets your order wrong TWICE and is a see ya next Tuesday.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

What would you tip on a 7.99 haircut? There is no right answer (unless you ask my wife).

If the woman cutting my hair conversed well with me and had a lot to say, made me feel like a good guest, etc. -- I'd probably just give 'em 15 bucks and be done with it. A couple bucks (2 or 3) at the minimum. I always liked going to Great Clips in Fargo because they had cute girls who loved to chat -- and women always rave about my red hair, so we find a lot of things to talk about. Actually got me a couple of dates and five minute fun times, so it was all good.

TIP YOUR BARTENDER.

TIP YOUR HAIRCUTTER.

DO NOT TIP CHIP DA RIPPER.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Pseudofool

I'm sure if you made any kind of joke ripping liberals, or people who study humanities or environmental concerns or social work, you'd have loling all over the place. And that's part of the problem.

Really your joke isn't clever, it's another english major in a coffee shop routine.

Your joke, and the people who laugh at it, play into the narrative about those people who follow a career path that might end up leading to serving tables part time, maybe for the rest of their lives. It's a sad truth that people with non-business degrees, esp. in the humanities and social services, can't find work in their field. These people are already disspirited by the fact they are over-educated for waiting tables. I'm sure if you waited tables, you ran into many of these type of people. So you laugh at them. Well done.

What are you studying in graduate school Psuedofool? Hope you are learning a lot and having fun. Sometimes the Mane can be a tough crowd.

[Pseudofool]

Originally Posted by Requiem

It's definitely OK if the person spills a drink on you, gets your order wrong TWICE and is a see ya next Tuesday.

Really, not even then. If a clerk at a gas station spills your slurpie and treats you with disdain, can you pay less for the slurpie?

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

Not inconsistent at all. Tips are not factored into the pay of service providers in other industries.

200%

I told her most guys would pay ten bucks for the whole thing. That's a 25% tip. She was furious with me. She said that's what "they all did" and it was rude since the price was discounted they should tip more. My argument was it's not my job to set prices and just go off the cultural norm. Her response was it was the same as bringing a gift card to a restaurant and only tipping on the difference paid. I did not agree. I felt the card was another form of payment and it's ridiculous to have me memorize their price list.

This was all academic since she cuts my hair for free and before she was dating I gave her ten bucks because she's hot.

[Kaylore]

Pseudofool is like the left wing version of drama llama.

[Pseudofool]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Pseudofool is like the left wing version of drama llama.

When did I even bring up politics? You made a classless joke that the conservatives of the board dug. And now you're righteous. Bravo. Class act.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Pseudofool

When did I even bring up politics? You made a classless joke that the conservatives of the board dug. And now you're righteous. Bravo. Class act.

Broncocalijohn isn't remotely right wing. Others have since reped whom I will not mention since I don't have permission who are not right wing. Get over yourself and take your stupid bull crap out of this thread. No one came to this thread to watch you brow-beat from your high horse. Quit hi-jacking it with your bullcrap.

[Pseudofool]

Originally Posted by Requiem

What are you studying in graduate school Psuedofool? Hope you are learning a lot and having fun. Sometimes the Mane can be a tough crowd.

I'm earning my Ph D in Creative Writing and Literature. So yeah, I'm a career waiter.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Pseudofool

Really, not even then. If you clerk at a gas station spills your slurpie and treats you with disdain, can you pay less for the slurpie?

Pretty sure if I get a drink spilled on my, my order wrong twice (waited for well over and hour) and treats the table like **** -- the waitress doesn't deserve a tip.

Please tell me why she does.

[Pseudofool]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Broncocalijohn isn't remotely right wing. Others have since reped whom I will not mention since I don't have permission who are not right wing. Get over yourself and take your stupid bull crap out of this thread. No one came to this thread to watch you brow-beat from your high horse. Quit hi-jacking it with your bullcrap.

That was the appropriate reaction. Again, Bravo.

My first post in this thread was a thoughtful response. I took offense to your joke, and you didn't like it. And here we are.

Maybe you should get the ban hammer out.

[Pseudofool]

Originally Posted by Requiem

Pretty sure if I get a drink spilled on my, my order wrong twice (waited for well over and hour) and treats the table like **** -- the waitress doesn't deserve a tip.

Please tell me why she does.

I'd tip her something, and then speak to a manager about her job security. That's me.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Pseudofool

I'm earning my Ph D in Creative Writing and Literature. So yeah, I'm a career waiter.

Sounds like a fun time. One of my best friends from undergraduate got his degree in English, went on to get his MA and now is doing his PhD back where we went to school together (in exactly what you are) and is teaching at the university (lower level courses) and making a pretty solid living while completing his PhD.

I hear you on the AH&SS people getting ripped on all the time. Has happened to me a lot on this board, but couldn't care less.

Maybe you'll be a rockstar professor someday or write a book more influential than 1984.