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Old 01-12-2013, 07:30 PM   #26
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I don't have a problem with it. Used an extra 40 seconds. Dont backpetal on a deep ball moore.
I agree with this. There's a LOT to complain about with the play calling, but this isn't it. You run and let the other team with no time outs try and drive the length of the field in 80 seconds. Not Fox's fault our Top 10 defense screwed the pooch.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:30 PM   #27
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I don't quite get why people are blaming Fox he wasn't making that call I'd put it on McCoy and he'll be hired by someone anyway I'm not sure anyone will be too upset by him leaving.
Because all Fox had to do was say this to McCoy:

Fox: "Hey, I want to win or lose with Manning. We're paying that guy $100 million, so give him the damn ball and let him throw it to ice the game. OK?"

McCoy: "Sure, coach. You're the coach! I'll get ready with 3 pass plays right now!"

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Old 01-12-2013, 07:30 PM   #28
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3rd and 7 only need one first down to win?

LET'S RUN IT!!
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:31 PM   #29
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I don't see a problem with it. Worst case, you don't make the first, and Baltimore will end up having to go 80ish yards in a minute with no timeouts.
Thats basically what happened, the odds of the Ravens doing what they did was extremely low. Think about it, say Jones catches it and Moore tackles him in bounds at the 15, another 10 seconds probably would've run off after they spiked it, leaving 21 seconds left. A tackle over the middle or a sack ends the game basically.

Now, if manning passes it, its incomplete, you give the Ravens 40 extra seconds. Although looking back, might not have been a bad idea as if things transpired the same, we'd have 3 timeouts and a minute to get into field goal range to score at the end of regulation.
^ = pretty much my thoughts.

I personally didn't like it, but it seemed like the higher percentage play at the time.
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I agree with this. There's a LOT to complain about with the play calling, but this isn't it. You run and let the other team with no time outs try and drive the length of the field in 80 seconds. Not Fox's fault our Top 10 defense screwed the pooch.
But Baltimore took over with 1:15 left and scored with 30 seconds left. They only needed 45 seconds!!! So chewing up an extra 40 seconds meant NUTTIN!
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:32 PM   #31
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Belichek and Parcells and Shanahan and Payton, etc. all have something that the Fox's and Schottenheimers and R666ves of the world don't have....BALLS.
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Its a p***Y call/audible when you have that QB making those throws all day
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:33 PM   #33
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Manning audibled into a lot of crappy plays today.
Audibled into tamme who was the invisible man all day.....we were done when knowshon went down..WHERE WAS THE PASS RUSH?
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:34 PM   #34
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I agree with this. There's a LOT to complain about with the play calling, but this isn't it. You run and let the other team with no time outs try and drive the length of the field in 80 seconds. Not Fox's fault our Top 10 defense screwed the pooch.
It's somebody's fault the D sucked today. Even so, with the way the defense was playing all day, you entrust them to close this game out?

We had all this hoopla signing PFM, and in the end, with a chance to ice a ****ing playoff game, we bascially give up and give the other team the ball.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:35 PM   #35
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I agree with this. There's a LOT to complain about with the play calling, but this isn't it. You run and let the other team with no time outs try and drive the length of the field in 80 seconds. Not Fox's fault our Top 10 defense screwed the pooch.
Not after watching them cram it down our throats to finish the first half. That's the conservative way out, but our D was showing multiple times they could get beat when we needed a stop.
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I agree with this. There's a LOT to complain about with the play calling, but this isn't it. You run and let the other team with no time outs try and drive the length of the field in 80 seconds. Not Fox's fault our Top 10 defense screwed the pooch.
They scored in how many seconds before halftime? You don't leave the door open for a team period. That was regular season game strategy in a playoff game. You do everything you can to keep that offense off the field. A 1st down wins the game and they didnt even TRY to get it. That's suicide
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Fox could have achieved the same results by pulling Manning out of the game at the end and sending in Brock "Landers" Osweiler to hand off the ball 3 times.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:44 PM   #38
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They scored in how many seconds before halftime? You don't leave the door open for a team period. That was regular season game strategy in a playoff game. You do everything you can to keep that offense off the field. A 1st down wins the game and they didnt even TRY to get it. That's suicide
Agreed.. I thought the Broncos were pulling out all the stops by playing Holiday and he came thru.. If you are asking the players to leave it all out on the field, then the coaches need to do the same.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:45 PM   #39
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Belichek and Parcells and Shanahan and Payton, etc. all have something that the Fox's and Schottenheimers and R666ves of the world don't have....BALLS.
McCoy is great at castration....
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:46 PM   #40
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They scored in how many seconds before halftime? You don't leave the door open for a team period. That was regular season game strategy in a playoff game. You do everything you can to keep that offense off the field. A 1st down wins the game and they didnt even TRY to get it. That's suicide
I agree 100%

I don't even remember now, but what was our field position when we punted? Were we close enough to try a FG if Manning completed a 5 yard dump and they stopped us short of a 1st down?

I just checked again, and I'm still pissed!
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:48 PM   #41
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We all know why Marty loses playoff games..When you play conservative, bad things will happen.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:57 PM   #42
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We all know why Marty loses playoff games..When you play conservative, bad things will happen.
Yup, I screamed all day not to do that, and what happens...
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:58 PM   #43
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There's that line in The Replacements where the coach says a winner wants the ball when the game's on the line. Well, in this game, that ball went to a rookie RB...
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There's that line in The Replacements where the coach says a winner wants the ball when the game's on the line. Well, in this game, that ball went to a rookie RB...
Exactly.

Anyone remember Tebow's great comeback against Miami last year? Needing a 2-point conversion to tie the game, Tebow ran over to the sidelines and yelled at Fox & McCoy: "There's only one guy who's runnin' the ball...AND THAT'S ME!"

I have no doubt that if Tebow hadn't said this, Fox & Company would have called for some kind of lame pass.

Too bad Manning didn't call his own number like Tebow did last year.
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Manning's claming he audibled into the play. No wonder he ****s himself in the playoffs
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:26 PM   #46
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Yup, Fox ran the Marty playbook ... all units in "prevent" mode.

Here's a happy thought: Did Holliday make this game closer than the score would indicate? Yeah, he probably did.
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See how SF winning game against GB..That's how we should play..Never give chance to other team.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:31 PM   #48
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Yup, Fox ran the Marty playbook ... all units in "prevent" mode.

Here's a happy thought: Did Holliday make this game closer than the score would indicate? Yeah, he probably did.
Actually Holliday did his job today, Champ, Von, Moore all screwed the pooch .
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Manning's claming he audibled into the play. No wonder he ****s himself in the playoffs
If Manning really did say this, then it follows that:

A) Manning is lying to protect Fox; or

B) Manning is telling the truth, in which case both he *and* Fox need to be ashamed of themselves. Manning, for "passing the buck" to a rookie with the game on the line. And Fox, for not telling Manning ahead of time to get the damn first down.

Look, I'm sure Fox set the tempo and the expectations after the 2-minute warning. He and Manning had plenty of time to talk through countless scenarios. All he had to say was: "Hey Peyton, go out and win the game with a pass for a first down. Don't audible to a run, OK?"
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I didn't like it. I really didn't like it. But we still had a GREAT chance to win the game.

Baltimore needed a touchdown to TIE, not even to WIN, to TIE; there was very little time left, and they had no timeouts. All we had to do was play prevent defense, protect the sideline passes, and tackle well in the middle of the field. But we didn't even make them earn it.

In fact, the Ravens thrived on big plays/clutch plays all game. Time of possession heavily favored us and we still scored less.

I had more of a problem not being more aggressive before the first half ended and at the end of the game, when we had some time left and time outs to use.
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