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Old 08-19-2018, 09:34 AM   #1
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:11 PM   #2
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"Threats to our institutions and values..."?

Are you kidding me? Clapper evidently is referring to the spook community's assumed "right" to surveil the public and its absolutely sacred "right" to covertly undermine and topple foreign governments, including democratically elected leaders.

These are the "values" put in jeopardy by WikiLeaks, Ed Snowden's testimony, Bill Binney's lawsuits, and Ray McGovern's feisty courage.
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What a stupid thread title. LMAO at Shane trying his best to stir it up. Basically all the article says is Clapper said Brennan's comments have become an issue. Shane uses the words 'turn on each other'. Other than Clapper saying Brennan's comments were an issue, where's the 'others' turning on the 'others'? Shane is FOS.
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Speaking of spooks, what is Philip Mudd so bent out of shape about?

Still feeling guilt over being the great grandson of Lincoln assassination conspirator, Samuel Mudd?

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Speaking of spooks, what is Philip Mudd so bent out of shape about?

Still feeling guilt over being the great grandson of Lincoln assassination conspirator, Samuel Mudd?

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entitled is more like it.
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Speaking of spooks, what is Philip Mudd so bent out of shape about?

Still feeling guilt over being the great grandson of Lincoln assassination conspirator, Samuel Mudd?

Watch the last 2-3 minutes and it will make sense to you. Alot of these people that have served our country take pride in being able to still assist if needed, for whatever reason, even if it's just to ask them input on something. It's an asset, not a problem. There were very harsh comments during Obama administration made from several former intelligence people. Obama didn't act like a big baby and revoke those privileges just because a few disagreed with him and didn't like some of his politics. Trump is a big baby and can't take what he dishes out, simple as that.
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Of course he can't.


Bolton Unable To Name A Single Occasion When Brennan Misused Clearance
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Watch the last 2-3 minutes and it will make sense to you. Alot of these people that have served our country take pride in being able to still assist if needed, for whatever reason, even if it's just to ask them input on something. It's an asset, not a problem. There were very harsh comments during Obama administration made from several former intelligence people. Obama didn't act like a big baby and revoke those privileges just because a few disagreed with him and didn't like some of his politics. Trump is a big baby and can't take what he dishes out, simple as that.
The clearances are being removed as the Sessions-Huber LEAK investigation is completed with each respective rat.

Please keep up with what is going on.
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The clearances are being removed as the Sessions-Huber LEAK investigation is completed with each respective rat.

Please keep up with what is going on on loony, far-right conspiracy sites and Trump State TV (a.k.a. Fox News)
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Here's How Trump's Revoking Security Clearances Could Constitute a Federal Crime

His legal troubles are piling up.

President Donald Trump's controversy-of-the-week was his decision to revoke the security clearance of former CIA Director John Brennan, a fierce critic of the president, as he threatened to do the same to many others. But unlike some of the other outrageous acts Trump chooses to fill his time with, ranging from the misguided to the deeply offensive, the path he's on of using his discretionary security clearance powers is potentially criminal.

Many observers noted that going after Brennan and others — specifically because they were involved with the Russia investigation, as Trump told the Wall Street Journal— could be part of a broader obstruction of justice case that special counsel Robert Mueller appears to be pursuing.

As the Washington Post's Aaron Blake explained in an article Friday, though, retaliating against people for providing true information to law enforcement is a federal crime on its — §1513. The statute reads:

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Whoever knowingly, with the intent to retaliate, takes any action harmful to any person, including interference with the lawful employment or livelihood of any person, for providing to a law enforcement officer any truthful information relating to the commission or possible commission of any Federal offense, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.
It's not clear this would apply to the case of Brennan, but it could cover others named on Trump's list — such as former FBI director James Comey
"He’s one of the most pivotal witnesses in this whole thing," Elie Honig, a former federal prosecutor for the Southern District of New York, told Blake. "If Trump starts lashing out at Comey and all he said publicly is, ‘I’m doing this because of Russia,’ I think that can be construed as retaliation.”

Since ex-officials outside of government sometimes use their security clearances in their professional careers, taking away those clearances could amount to a tangible form of retribution. In these types of cases, it can be difficult to prove criminal motivation — but Trump often seems almost constitutionally incapable of concealing his motivations.

The president's defenders typically argue that it can't be a crime for him to carry out an official act, such as revoking a security clearance or issuing a pardon. But it's not clear why this should be the case. Any other employer couldn't, for example, fire an employee in an effort to retaliate against them for providing damaging testimony to the police — even if that employer putatively has the right to fire an employee for any reason.

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