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Old 08-19-2018, 11:13 AM   #176
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ďHope is like the sun. If you only believe in it when you can see it, youíll never make it through the night.Ē

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3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
So you don't know the difference between matters of faith and matters of fact?

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So you don't know the difference between matters of faith and matters of fact?

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There is only One who has the true facts, and He can only be known by faith.
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Old 08-19-2018, 11:25 AM   #178
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Iím not Catholic.

I never said they shouldnít have to answer or be punished.
You suggested they were merely pawns in a conspiracy orchestrated by Satan.

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I think in your belief system, you have a harder question to answer. Since they would be god, how could they be fallen like this? If there is no evil as you say, then what do you call this?

We are all just waves in an ocean you said. And, god is all, and all are god you said.

You explain.
Straw man.

I never said there was "no evil."

The difficult theological problem is yours, i.e., the problem of explaining how evil arose in a creation ruled by an omnipotent and omniscient being.
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Old 08-19-2018, 11:28 AM   #179
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There is only One who has the true facts, and He can only be known by faith.
Thanks for conceding you have no direct, first-hand knowledge re: what happens after death.
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Old 08-19-2018, 02:12 PM   #180
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You suggested they were merely pawns in a conspiracy orchestrated by Satan.

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No suggestion they shouldnít be punished.
Straw man.

I never said there was "no evil."

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You said everyone is a god. Who decides what evil is and what good is in your ideology?
The difficult theological problem is yours, i.e., the problem of explaining how evil arose in a creation ruled by an omnipotent and omniscient being.
So, if we are all god and god is everything, how does evil exist?
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Old 08-19-2018, 02:16 PM   #181
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Thanks for conceding you have no direct, first-hand knowledge re: what happens after death.
Neither do you....

Let me warn you...itís worse than worm dirt. Bridge out ahead! Still time to mend your ways!!!

In your philosophy do we just crash as a wave and become part of the ocean only to be a wave & start all over again?
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This is a massive, horrifying scandal. It's amazing how more people aren't talking about it. I've made several posts about it over the last few days and it has sparked zero discussion.
Yep the Catholic Church has turned into the anti Christ IMO if one can exist.

Kid Fuggers are the lowest form of humanity and should be immediately executed.
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Yep the Catholic Church has turned into the anti Christ IMO if one can exist.

Kid Fuggers are the lowest form of humanity and should be immediately executed.
I agree that they are depraved.

Too bad Netflix is supporting this type of behavior.
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I agree that they are depraved.

Too bad Netflix is supporting this type of behavior.
Not a subscriber so cannot comment but the behavior is abhorrent.
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Old 08-19-2018, 03:32 PM   #185
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So, if we are all god and god is everything, how does evil exist?
Heraclitus probably said it best: (Paraphrasing) "For God, all things are good - it's only for man that some things are good and some things are evil."
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Not a subscriber so cannot comment but the behavior is abhorrent.
Agreed

Not applicable since you are not a subscriber, but just fir OM awareness. Hopefully we can all agreee to keep our kids safe from this.

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Heraclitus probably said it best: (Paraphrasing) "For God, all things are good - it's only for man that some things are good and some things are evil."
Dodge

Just think itís funny in your religion Trump is a god and you canít site a single law heís broken in your religion.
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Neither do you....
You're the one claiming to have direct, first-hand knowledge, irrefutable proof, etc.

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Let me warn you...itís worse than worm dirt. Bridge out ahead! Still time to mend your ways!!!
See what I mean?

Your concession, i.e., that your ideas about what happens after death are ultimately a matter of faith, didn't last long.

Now you're back in skid row street preacher mode again.

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In your philosophy do we just crash as a wave and become part of the ocean only to be a wave & start all over again?
You're not "part of" the (metaphorical) ocean - you ARE the ocean.

More accurately, you're something the ocean is doing.

Do you think the wave has a separate existence independent of the ocean?
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Just think itís funny in your religion Trump is a god and you canít site a single law heís broken in your religion.
1) Not a dodge, but a direct answer to your question. Why do you avoid a direct answer to the quote I mentioned?

2) When did I ever say I followed any one specific religion?

3) Can you name ANY religion whose tenets or laws President p***Y Grabber hasn't shredded? (Satanism doesn't count!)
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Just think itís funny in your religion Trump is a god and you canít site a single law heís broken in your religion.
Hi Biblebot...remember me?

I know you see this.
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You're the one claiming to have direct, first-hand knowledge, irrefutable proof, etc.

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Faith, Hebrews 11:1...reading & comprehension!!!
See what I mean?

Your concession, i.e., that your ideas about what happens after death are ultimately a matter of faith, didn't last long.

Now you're back in skid row street preacher mode again.

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You are babbling. Iíve said the same consistent things regarding my faith. You are in a backpedal!
You're not "part of" the (metaphorical) ocean - you ARE the ocean.

More accurately, you're something the ocean is doing.

Do you think the wave has a separate existence independent of the ocean?
So Trump is the ocean Awesome!!!

MAGA!!!
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1) Not a dodge, but a direct answer to your question. Why do you avoid a direct answer to the quote I mentioned?

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A quote is not a question. Itís a quote.
2) When did I ever say I followed any one specific religion?

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Which combination of religious do you follow? Which ones do you exclude?
3) Can you name ANY religion whose tenets or laws President p***Y Grabber hasn't shredded? (Satanism doesn't count!)
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What I asked was what law in your religion did he break? Name your religion, the law and who set that law.
Just Jesus with the Bible is my foundation. I donít believe in religion.
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So Trump is the ocean Awesome!!!
A really nasty storm on the ocean. Only "awesome" if you believe sinking your own battleship is a small price to pay for "triggering the libs."

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[QUOTE=L.A. BRONCOS FAN;5304750]A really nasty storm on the ocean. Only "awesome" if you believe sinking your own battleship is a small price to pay for "triggering the libs."

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Who says heís nasty in your religion? Can one wave judge another wave like that?
Who decides what is good & evil in your religion?
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A quote is not a question. Itís a quote..
It was a quote that addressed your question directly. Why do you avoid answering it?

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I don't "follow" any religion or combination of religions. A religion isn't an exclusive club. If I find truth or value in (any) religion, then I acknowledge it. Some truth and some value can be found in all religious traditions.

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What I asked was what law in your religion did he break? Name your religion, the law and who set that law.
1) I'm not a member or a follower of any religious group or sect.

2) Once again, I ask you: Can you name any religion whose precepts or laws President p***Y Grabber hasn't shredded? Still waiting for that answer.
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Who decides what is good & evil in your religion?
1) I don't belong to any religious group or sect (maybe repetition is the key to comprehension?)

2) Humans decide, of course, as morality is all about how we treat one another.
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Hi Biblebot...remember me?

I know you see this.
He's still hiding from you?

L0L.

He's scared to debate someone who actually knows something about the Bible.

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It was a quote that addressed your question directly. Why do you avoid answering it?



I don't "follow" any religion or combination of religions. A religion isn't an exclusive club. If I find truth or value in (any) religion, then I acknowledge it. Some truth and some value can be found in all religious traditions.



1) I'm not a member or a follower of any religious group or sect.

2) Once again, I ask you: Can you name any religion whose precepts or laws President p***Y Grabber hasn't shredded? Still waiting for that answer.
So summing up your word salad:

You pick & choose from things as you go. There is zero basis or accountability for your belief system. You say everyone is a god. Iím not seeing any basis for you to be upset with President Trump.
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1) I don't belong to any religious group or sect (maybe repetition is the key to comprehension?)

2) Humans decide, of course, as morality is all about how we treat one another.
Humans are gods you keep saying. Each human makes up thier own morality. You believe in the Big Bang & evolution. So this is a survival of the fittest morality where you make agreements based on your need at the moment. Situational morality which helps you survive or achieve your personal god objectives.

Thatís rather frightening!
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