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Old 08-29-2018, 08:42 AM   #1
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From this article- A woman was in Player A's Bed. Dude B walks in and has sex with her. She doesn't realize it is not Player A until he speaks. He doesn't speak until after the act. She had consensual sex with the wrong person. Is that rape?
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Old 08-29-2018, 08:49 AM   #2
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I’m going to say yes.
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Old 08-29-2018, 08:55 AM   #4
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I'm sure that's the whole story.
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I'm sure that's the whole story.
Or it could be just an interesting theoretical question.
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Yes. It is rape.
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Old 08-29-2018, 09:06 AM   #7
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Old 08-29-2018, 09:09 AM   #8
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Yes. It is rape.
I would like to know why? Dude B misrepresented himself-He lied in essence. He did not use force, she willing did the act. Only later finding out she was unhappy. The reality is she did not do- due diligence before having sex. (Devils advocate position)
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Similar circumstances-A man agrees to pay for sex. After the act he says he never intended to pay. The woman is now unhappy about having sex with the man. Rape?


http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2109054
Assuming these women had sex with this guy. Would that be rape?
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Old 08-29-2018, 09:18 AM   #11
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Similar circumstances-A man agrees to pay for sex. After the act he says he never intended to pay. The woman is now unhappy about having sex with the man. Rape?


http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2109054
Assuming these women had sex with this guy. Would that be rape?
A true professional would get the money up front...



or so Iíve heard
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Old 08-29-2018, 09:19 AM   #13
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I'd say yes, this is rape, but a defense attorney could have a good argument that this isn't rape. The story says that the two men had been spending time with her. The guy who had sex with her could claim that she was giving him signs that she was interested, and that he thought that she knew that it was him. So in his mind, he thought it was consensual. But that argument probably won't get him off the hook. It sounds like rape to me. It sounds like he went in there and just took it.
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I would like to know why? Dude B misrepresented himself-He lied in essence. He did not use force, she willing did the act. Only later finding out she was unhappy. The reality is she did not do- due diligence before having sex. (Devils advocate position)
If he misrepresented himself, yeah, that's rape. If he thought that she knew that it was him, I would say it's not rape. It sounds like it would be difficult to prove it one way or the other. I'm leaning toward him misrepresenting himself.
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Old 08-29-2018, 09:24 AM   #17
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Similar circumstances-A man agrees to pay for sex. After the act he says he never intended to pay. The woman is now unhappy about having sex with the man. Rape?


http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2109054
Assuming these women had sex with this guy. Would that be rape?
I'd say that it's not rape in either of those cases. In the case with the prostitute, she could take him to small claims court to get her money. But that's not rape. In the case of the guy pretending to be Ben Roethlisberger, I'd say that's not rape. I'd imagine that the women had numerous opportunities to figure out that it was not him. A lot of guys lie in some form to get sex. Back to the case of the woman in the player's bedroom, she's in one man's bed, in a darkroom. She assumed that the man who walked in was the man who stayed in that room. If the man who had sex with her used the darkness to hide his identity, I'd say that's rape.
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Old 08-29-2018, 09:33 AM   #19
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Sounds a little rapey to me with the little bit of info in the article.



I would like to know what "spending time with both Higgins and Nelson" meant. Had she slept with both before or was it clear she was only sexually interested in Higgins?


Regardless I would have no issue with the DA taking a real close look at this.
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Rape. She was in dude A's bed, where she had apparently had sex with dude A. Was willing to have more sex with dude A. Dude B coming in and not talking (I am assuming its dark and the deed is done doggy style), seems like intentional misrepresentation.

Rape occurs when one person does not give consent or is unable to give consent. Here, she was unable to give consent to have sex with B, because she was not aware it was B and the circumstances would not reasonably lead her to believe it would be anyone other than A.
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I'd say it's rape because she's not technically giving consent to that person.
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I would like to know why? Dude B misrepresented himself-He lied in essence. He did not use force, she willing did the act. Only later finding out she was unhappy. The reality is she did not do- due diligence before having sex. (Devils advocate position)
Are you ****ing kidding me? You'd like to know why?

He lied. A lie of omission is still a lie. She did not give consent TO HIM.

This sure seems like a random thing to be bringing up. Care to unburden your soul, thug?
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