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Old 04-29-2018, 10:45 AM   #76
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Team's top five picks were all in my Top 100. Yaidom was connected throughout the whole process. Told a handful of people here privately we really liked him. Jewell rocks. OM gotta cry about him too?
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Old 04-29-2018, 10:50 AM   #78
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Old 04-29-2018, 10:51 AM   #79
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Plus we got Holland in UDFA. That's a steal. Bed-****ting in calue for me in the OM Mok.
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Plus we got Holland in UDFA. That's a steal. Bed-****ting in calue for me in the OM Mok.
I'm so hoping Holland just lights its up in camp and makes either Ray or Barrett expendable and they can trade one to a desperate team for a really solid player in return.
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Old 04-29-2018, 10:57 AM   #81
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I hope he makes it. If not, he can be on PS like Shaq was then compete.
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I hope he makes it. If not, he can be on PS like Shaq was then compete.
The draft is so overwhelming, and when I read he was a UDFA I couldn't believe it. I just assumed he got drafted in the 5th.
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Fair enough, about Jewell. I guess we will see.
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Let me point out something about this draft for everyone drooling over the fact that we've supposedly rebuilt this defense with a few players where we had holes. I've not read everything in here so maybe this has been addressed, maybe not, but take notice of it since it's significant.

The 2015 defense was built on pure speed...lots of it. We had the fastest defense in the NFL, bar none. The choices I'm seeing here do not fit that profile. Jewel is a plodder (4.82), and so is Issac Yiadom (4.56) and Keishawn Bierria (4.79). The fact that a guy like Jewell is a film junkie who can diagnose plays and has no wasted steps is obviously an important part of this because it partially negates the lack of top-flight speed in close quarters. But it's still a departure from the model Philips worked with to produce that defense. Assuming these players will dislodge guys like Anderson and Davis is presumptive. The same holds true BTW for the receivers we drafted. DT isn't just bigger, he's considerably faster than the SMU kid for example. I like some of these selections, and others I'm not sure of. College production is great, and a guy like Jewell might have the game that translates well to the NFL, or he may not. For every slow-footed guy drafted who makes it in the league as a starter, a bunch do not. A CB who runs a 4.56 forty may have other skills or attributes that make up for that, or he might just be a bench guy who holds down the special teams role for a couple seasons and then gets cut.

I'm assuming very little at this point. Past drafts with this regime have proven disappointing, and if you pull up the conversations on this board during those drafts, you'll find similar comments to the exuberance expressed in this one.

Wait and see...
You are aware that Marshall ran a 4.81 40 right? TJ Ward ran a 4.56 40. Darian Stewart a 4.53. Danny Travethan ran a 4.82 at his pro-day and didn't run at the combine.
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Jewell does nothing flashy, but seems to have great instincts and heart. I hope he turns out to be a rock steady ILB in our Defense.
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Let me point out something about this draft for everyone drooling over the fact that we've supposedly rebuilt this defense with a few players where we had holes. I've not read everything in here so maybe this has been addressed, maybe not, but take notice of it since it's significant.

The 2015 defense was built on pure speed...lots of it. We had the fastest defense in the NFL, bar none. The choices I'm seeing here do not fit that profile. Jewel is a plodder (4.82), and so is Issac Yiadom (4.56) and Keishawn Bierria (4.79). The fact that a guy like Jewell is a film junkie who can diagnose plays and has no wasted steps is obviously an important part of this because it partially negates the lack of top-flight speed in close quarters. But it's still a departure from the model Philips worked with to produce that defense. Assuming these players will dislodge guys like Anderson and Davis is presumptive. The same holds true BTW for the receivers we drafted. DT isn't just bigger, he's considerably faster than the SMU kid for example. I like some of these selections, and others I'm not sure of. College production is great, and a guy like Jewell might have the game that translates well to the NFL, or he may not. For every slow-footed guy drafted who makes it in the league as a starter, a bunch do not. A CB who runs a 4.56 forty may have other skills or attributes that make up for that, or he might just be a bench guy who holds down the special teams role for a couple seasons and then gets cut.

I'm assuming very little at this point. Past drafts with this regime have proven disappointing, and if you pull up the conversations on this board during those drafts, you'll find similar comments to the exuberance expressed in this one.

Wait and see...
Yeah, that's not really true. The defense was predicated on multiple angles of pass rush allowing the secondary to play with aggression to take more chances for pass breakups and ints.

Yiadom doesn't seem to have great ball skills but his speed isn't going to be a problem unless our pass rush goes to hell. Sherman/Peters etc who are length corners tend to be 4.5 40 guys but it's their length with play recognition that allows them to play with aggression. Yiadom seems really coachable as the staff saw him firsthand so they obviously believe he can fit that length/aggression type of outside CB. If he had ran a 4.4 40, with his length he would have been drafted much earlier so we'll see.

Between Walker, Chubb, Shelby Harris/Gotsis, Wolfe, Von we should have enough horses up front to attack the pocket from all angles.
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Team's top five picks were all in my Top 100. Yaidom was connected throughout the whole process. Told a handful of people here privately we really liked him. Jewell rocks. OM gotta cry about him too?
OM minus a few people has pretty much loved the draft this weekend.

Elway and company put in serious work this weekend.
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Let me point out something about this draft for everyone drooling over the fact that we've supposedly rebuilt this defense with a few players where we had holes. I've not read everything in here so maybe this has been addressed, maybe not, but take notice of it since it's significant.

The 2015 defense was built on pure speed...lots of it. We had the fastest defense in the NFL, bar none. The choices I'm seeing here do not fit that profile. Jewel is a plodder (4.82), and so is Issac Yiadom (4.56) and Keishawn Bierria (4.79). The fact that a guy like Jewell is a film junkie who can diagnose plays and has no wasted steps is obviously an important part of this because it partially negates the lack of top-flight speed in close quarters. But it's still a departure from the model Philips worked with to produce that defense. Assuming these players will dislodge guys like Anderson and Davis is presumptive. The same holds true BTW for the receivers we drafted. DT isn't just bigger, he's considerably faster than the SMU kid for example. I like some of these selections, and others I'm not sure of. College production is great, and a guy like Jewell might have the game that translates well to the NFL, or he may not. For every slow-footed guy drafted who makes it in the league as a starter, a bunch do not. A CB who runs a 4.56 forty may have other skills or attributes that make up for that, or he might just be a bench guy who holds down the special teams role for a couple seasons and then gets cut.

I'm assuming very little at this point. Past drafts with this regime have proven disappointing, and if you pull up the conversations on this board during those drafts, you'll find similar comments to the exuberance expressed in this one.

Wait and see...
Our potentially nickel D is:

Von-Walker-Wolfe-Chubb

Marshall

Cravens-Simmons-Stewart-Harris-Roby-Brock/Yiadom

I wouldnt consider that "slow"

And the reason the 2015 defense was so good was because it was good in the DL, 5-6 deep, two great all-around linebackers, and the best secondary in football with an elite pass rush.

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Yeah, that's not really true. The defense was predicated on multiple angles of pass rush allowing the secondary to play with aggression to take more chances for pass breakups and ints.

Yiadom doesn't seem to have great ball skills but his speed isn't going to be a problem unless our pass rush goes to hell. Sherman/Peters etc who are length corners tend to be 4.5 40 guys but it's their length with play recognition that allows them to play with aggression. Yiadom seems really coachable as the staff saw him firsthand so they obviously believe he can fit that length/aggression type of outside CB. If he had ran a 4.4 40, with his length he would have been drafted much earlier so we'll see.

Between Walker, Chubb, Shelby Harris/Gotsis, Wolfe, Von we should have enough horses up front to attack the pocket from all angles.
I said this about Yiadom:

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I was really talking more about Jewell. The BC kid is a nickel corner at best right now. That defense WAS built on speed, so he and the Washington kid both look like a departure from that model. Does that mean they can't play? No. Does it mean they won't change the nature of the defense a bit? I'd say if you've got a new directive that doesn't consider speed a top priority, it could. That might not have a radical difference in the overall play, but it's worth taking stock of.
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Plus we got Holland in UDFA. That's a steal. Bed-****ting in calue for me in the OM Mok.
That will pay off next year if we don't have to spend two draft picks at OLB.
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I just read that Trevathan ran a 4.82 forty. Some guys can just play.
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I just read that Trevathan ran a 4.82 forty. Some guys can just play.
Elway's said before he believes in game speed over 40 speed.
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Trevathan was a 4.6 guy, he pulled up with a hamstring during the 40 at the combine.
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I just read that Trevathan ran a 4.82 forty. Some guys can just play.
He ran like a 4.5 or something in a workout with the Broncos. I remember Fox commenting in an article that they knew he was a 4.5 speed guy when they drafted him.
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Yeah, that's not really true. The defense was predicated on multiple angles of pass rush allowing the secondary to play with aggression to take more chances for pass breakups and ints.

Yiadom doesn't seem to have great ball skills but his speed isn't going to be a problem unless our pass rush goes to hell. Sherman/Peters etc who are length corners tend to be 4.5 40 guys but it's their length with play recognition that allows them to play with aggression. Yiadom seems really coachable as the staff saw him firsthand so they obviously believe he can fit that length/aggression type of outside CB. If he had ran a 4.4 40, with his length he would have been drafted much earlier so we'll see.

Between Walker, Chubb, Shelby Harris/Gotsis, Wolfe, Von we should have enough horses up front to attack the pocket from all angles.
If we donít, someone should be fired.
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Oh my, Iím really liking this guy. He really has a nose for the ball, doesnít he?
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