Pick your Bronco: Brock Osweiler or Russell Wilson? - Page 6 - The Orange Mane

DomCasual · 01-29-2013, 03:15 PM

Russell Wilson never figured out how to hit the curve ball consistently.

Brock Osweiler has better tattoos.

Osweiler reminds me more of Ed McCaffrey.

I'll take Brock.

Arkie · 01-29-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gunns

I do not believe that Wilson was drafted for an immediate impact. The Seahawks wouldn't have signed Flynn to a big contract if that were the case.

This.

He was drafted in the 3rd round to learn under Flynn. They thought he might start one day, but not this year. He beat everybody's expectations.

It's the same situation in Denver. Brock is learning and may be a quality starter one day. QBs drafted much higher have failed. We'll have to wait and see. Seattle already knows what they have.

Tombstone RJ · 01-30-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkie

This.

He was drafted in the 3rd round to learn under Flynn. They thought he might start one day, but not this year. He beat everybody's expectations.

It's the same situation in Denver. Brock is learning and may be a quality starter one day. QBs drafted much higher have failed. We'll have to wait and see. Seattle already knows what they have.

Love your avy but gonna have to disagree with your post. You simply have no idea why Seattle drafted Flynn, that is, you weren't in the meeting when they called his name, nor were you in the meetings when they scouted him, etc.

IMHO, Wilson did outpace the expectations for sure. But my point is why draft Wilson at all when you just traded for Flynn and signed him to a fat contract? Somethings wrong with this picture. IMHO Wilson was drafted more because Flynn is not living up to expectations and pretty much everyone thought Wilson was a complete QB and NFL viable except for how tall he is.

TheReverend · 01-30-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Love your avy but gonna have to disagree with your post. You simply have no idea why Seattle drafted Flynn, that is, you weren't in the meeting when they called his name, nor were you in the meetings when they scouted him, etc.

IMHO, Wilson did outpace the expectations for sure. But my point is why draft Wilson at all when you just traded for Flynn and signed him to a fat contract? Somethings wrong with this picture. IMHO Wilson was drafted more because Flynn is not living up to expectations and pretty much everyone thought Wilson was a complete QB and NFL viable except for how tall he is.

...Exactly what expectations weren't met between Flynn signing and the draft...?

go_broncos · 01-30-2013, 03:46 PM

53 voted for Brock..

Tombstone RJ · 01-30-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

...Exactly what expectations weren't met between Flynn signing and the draft...?

that's a good question and only the hawks know the answer. All I know is that Flynn is perhaps the highest paid benchwarmer in the NFL...

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-30-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

that's a good question and only the hawks know the answer. All I know is that Flynn is perhaps the highest paid benchwarmer in the NFL...

I think they obviously liked Wilson and saw a cant miss opportunity in the third round. But I have to assume they fully expected Flynn to be their starter this year. You dont pay a guy all that money to be a question mark. And its not like they drafted Wilson in the first.

Tombstone RJ · 01-30-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

I think they obviously liked Wilson and saw a cant miss opportunity in the third round. But I have to assume they fully expected Flynn to be their starter this year. You dont pay a guy all that money to be a question mark. And its not like they drafted Wilson in the first.

I agree but if all things are equal, that is, if Wilson and Flynn provide the same chance to win then don't you start Flynn? Wilson must have just dazzled the coaches in practice.

Arkie · 01-30-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Love your avy but gonna have to disagree with your post. You simply have no idea why Seattle drafted Flynn, that is, you weren't in the meeting when they called his name, nor were you in the meetings when they scouted him, etc.

IMHO, Wilson did outpace the expectations for sure. But my point is why draft Wilson at all when you just traded for Flynn and signed him to a fat contract? Somethings wrong with this picture. IMHO Wilson was drafted more because Flynn is not living up to expectations and pretty much everyone thought Wilson was a complete QB and NFL viable except for how tall he is.

I'm not Seattle's GM, but I played one on the Orange Mane 11 month ago.

Arkie · 01-30-2013, 07:36 PM

Seattle needed a QB more than Denver, but Denver signed Manning and spent a higher pick in the draft for Brock. Seattle wanted to land Manning, but he never considered them. They went with plan B. Flynn was the next big FA at the position. I felt like they signed him to be an immediate starter. I went into the mock draft looking for a QB of the future with expectations of Flynn starting at least a year.

Agamemnon · 01-30-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by go_broncos

53 voted for Brock..

I know right? It's unreal.

Inkana7 · 01-30-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

I know right? It's unreal.

I know right?! In a poll from August?

:r ofl:

go_broncos · 01-31-2013, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

I know right?! In a poll from August?

:r ofl:

it shows how much the posters in this site are blind homers...

TheReverend · 01-31-2013, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by go_broncos

it shows how much the posters in this site are blind homers...

...because one played and another didn't?

Agamemnon · 01-31-2013, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

...because one played and another didn't?

No, because one was a great college quarterback in a pro style system and the other wasn't. And because one is a great athlete and the other isn't. The only thing Osweiler had on Wilson coming out was height. That's it.

Now I'm not trying to pretend that I was sitting around wanting Wilson during the draft, but I sure as **** didn't want Mr. Beanpole over him.

schaaf · 01-31-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

No, because one was a great college quarterback in a pro style system and the other wasn't. And because one is a great athlete and the other isn't. The only thing Osweiler had on Wilson coming out was height. That's it.

Now I'm not trying to pretend that I was sitting around wanting Wilson during the draft, but I sure as **** didn't want Mr. Beanpole over him.

You're honestly saying Brock isn't athletic? Brock originally signed a basketball scholarship to play for Gonzaga. You're calling that unathletic

2KBack · 01-31-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by schaaf

You're honestly saying Brock isn't athletic? Brock originally signed a basketball scholarship to play for Gonzaga. You're calling that unathletic

242lbs is a bean pole

TheReverend · 01-31-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by schaaf

You're honestly saying Brock isn't athletic? Brock originally signed a basketball scholarship to play for Gonzaga. You're calling that unathletic

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

242lbs is a bean pole

I hate when people are so lazy they can't even do a cursory google search to check their bull****.

2KBack · 02-01-2013, 04:59 AM

http://www.drafttek.com/PositionalQB.asp
http://walterfootball.com/draft2012QB.php
http://www.nfl.com/photos/09000d5d82...000d5d8264321d
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...Prospects.html
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2012/prospects/qb.html

Good luck finding Russell Wilson ranked ahead of Osweiler anywhere leading up to this season. Wilson may have shown that he is better than that ranking at this point (or he may still Doug Flutie for a couple years before Doug Flutieing). As for Brock, there can be no assessment yet.

underrated29 · 02-01-2013, 07:58 AM

Brock also has a stronger arm.....iirc, Wilson was said to possibly be a first round pick if he was 3 inches taller. It was also said that if Brock would have stayed in college and just kept par with the season he had his last year of college he would have been a top 10 pick this year, perhaps the #1 overall.

The answer is we do not know the answer yet. How you guys think you do is insane. Think of it like this-

You are playing fantasy football and each team has one player left. You guy plays Monday night and his Sunday night. Hs guy played sun night and put up 30 points......are you now going to start b****ing and whining that you should have started a different player,without having even seen how your guys does mon night? You have no clue! Perhaps you have Rodgers on Monday night. Perhaps you have Brandon wheeden. You don't know. You have no way of knowing until you guys plays. Anything before then is just being ridiculous.

Requiem · 02-01-2013, 08:16 AM

Brock Osweiler can hit Mt. Rushmore from Denver. That is how strong his arm is.

oubronco · 02-01-2013, 09:16 AM

Neither one is as athletic as our Deer like Manning

jonny1 · 02-01-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I agree but if all things are equal, that is, if Wilson and Flynn provide the same chance to win then don't you start Flynn? Wilson must have just dazzled the coaches in practice.

That is exactly what happened, Wilson WON the job and Carroll was smart enough to know it.

Agamemnon · 02-01-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

I hate when people are so lazy they can't even do a cursory google search to check their bull****.

Dude runs a 4.8-4.9 40 and is 6'8" at that weight. Neither of my comments was bull****. He's not very athletic (more athletic than Manning, but that doesn't say much) and he is a bit of a beanpole. He does have a stronger arm than Wilson, I forgot to mention that. Still he was merely a good college QB playing in a spread offense while Russel Wilson was absolutely tearing it up in a pro style offense.

TheReverend · 02-01-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Dude runs a 4.8-4.9 40 and is 6'8" at that weight. Neither of my comments was bull****. He's not very athletic (more athletic than Manning, but that doesn't say much) and he is a bit of a beanpole. He does have a stronger arm than Wilson, I forgot to mention that. Still he was merely a good college QB playing in a spread offense while Russel Wilson was absolutely tearing it up in a pro style offense.

So we've isolated the 40 yard dash as THE judge of athleticism?

Good to know.

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01-29-2013, 03:15 PM	#126
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Russell Wilson never figured out how to hit the curve ball consistently. Brock Osweiler has better tattoos. Osweiler reminds me more of Ed McCaffrey. I'll take Brock.

01-30-2013, 03:46 PM	#130
go_broncos Ring of Famer **** you Bill Vinovich Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 5,218 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	53 voted for Brock..

01-30-2013, 07:36 PM	#135
Arkie Ring of Famer Gggggrrrrrr rrrraaaahhh Arrrrhhhn. Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 9,080 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quinton Carter	Seattle needed a QB more than Denver, but Denver signed Manning and spent a higher pick in the draft for Brock. Seattle wanted to land Manning, but he never considered them. They went with plan B. Flynn was the next big FA at the position. I felt like they signed him to be an immediate starter. I went into the mock draft looking for a QB of the future with expectations of Flynn starting at least a year.

02-01-2013, 04:59 AM	#144
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,273	http://www.drafttek.com/PositionalQB.asp http://walterfootball.com/draft2012QB.php http://www.nfl.com/photos/09000d5d82...000d5d8264321d http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...Prospects.html http://www.footballsfuture.com/2012/prospects/qb.html Good luck finding Russell Wilson ranked ahead of Osweiler anywhere leading up to this season. Wilson may have shown that he is better than that ranking at this point (or he may still Doug Flutie for a couple years before Doug Flutieing). As for Brock, there can be no assessment yet.

02-01-2013, 07:58 AM	#145
underrated29 10-6 baby. Cutler doesnt suck Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,847 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Brock also has a stronger arm.....iirc, Wilson was said to possibly be a first round pick if he was 3 inches taller. It was also said that if Brock would have stayed in college and just kept par with the season he had his last year of college he would have been a top 10 pick this year, perhaps the #1 overall. The answer is we do not know the answer yet. How you guys think you do is insane. Think of it like this- You are playing fantasy football and each team has one player left. You guy plays Monday night and his Sunday night. Hs guy played sun night and put up 30 points......are you now going to start b****ing and whining that you should have started a different player,without having even seen how your guys does mon night? You have no clue! Perhaps you have Rodgers on Monday night. Perhaps you have Brandon wheeden. You don't know. You have no way of knowing until you guys plays. Anything before then is just being ridiculous.

02-01-2013, 08:16 AM	#146
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,515 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Brock Osweiler can hit Mt. Rushmore from Denver. That is how strong his arm is.

02-01-2013, 09:16 AM	#147
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,570	Neither one is as athletic as our Deer like Manning