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Old 12-12-2012, 06:29 PM   #76
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Good post. Yes, perhaps SF's D can make it a game. I just fear they won't have enough O to get it done.
I think they're in for much more of a dog fight than Houston gave them.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:49 PM   #77
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I think they're in for much more of a dog fight than Houston gave them.
Yep, SF's physical defense will give the Patriots issues.

Remember, the Giants match up well against Tom Brady and the Pats. Well, the SF D is even more complete and more physical than the Giants D.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:22 PM   #78
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Houston still has to play Indy 2 times, so them winning out is far from guaranteed.
This...patriots will be the 1 sede before all is said and done.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:33 AM   #79
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Yep DJ your savior. Ahahahahaha

Someone else mentioned losing by ten after being down by 21. Do you really think NE did not go into cruise control after building that lead?

Do you really think had it been closer they would not have just kept the foot to the floorboard?

If so your a fool.

So many folks with short memories of what they did to a fox team in the playoffs last year. I know we have made changes but so have they.
Like the went into cruise control vs. Houston? A fool can see that 3 TOs are what sunk the Broncos in that game.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:31 AM   #80
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Like the went into cruise control vs. Houston? A fool can see that 3 TOs are what sunk the Broncos in that game.
Is allowing a handoff on 3 and 17 go for 19 yards a turnover? Is allowing a monumental number of 3rd down conversions now officially called turnovers?

Guess the people that actually watched the game and were frustrated by our defense's inability to get off the field are fools, and people like you who simply read the newspaper stats on Monday morning are geniuses.

Astounded people don't remember the 14 play drives they shoved down our throat. Nobody is happier that Mays is gone than me, but that was a team loss.

Yeah, it was just a few unlucky turnovers that cost us that game.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:38 AM   #81
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Like the went into cruise control vs. Houston? A fool can see that 3 TOs are what sunk the Broncos in that game.
no offense but HOu was not being discussed..

it was about the NE game and if we play them again how DJ IMO would have been irrelevant..

while you are correct about the HOU game it is a non starter in this thread..
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:54 AM   #82
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As always, the San Francisco defense HAS to step up. NE wasn't going to be afraid of Alex Smith, either. San Francisco is a rare case where the quarterback doesn't really make a difference...
They (Alex or Kaep) can make a difference. SF is just the kind of team that shouldn't necessarily want them to.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:19 AM   #83
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Is allowing a handoff on 3 and 17 go for 19 yards a turnover? Is allowing a monumental number of 3rd down conversions now officially called turnovers?

Guess the people that actually watched the game and were frustrated by our defense's inability to get off the field are fools, and people like you who simply read the newspaper stats on Monday morning are geniuses.

Astounded people don't remember the 14 play drives they shoved down our throat. Nobody is happier that Mays is gone than me, but that was a team loss.

Yeah, it was just a few unlucky turnovers that cost us that game.

The good news in all this is if we play them again this season their players on some level will feel they are much better than the Broncos and no matter how much their coaches hammer home the fact the Broncos are not the team they played earlier in the season they will have some level of over confidence which obviously helps us.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:21 AM   #84
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We have been winning despite not playing our best game. This won't cut it in the playoffs, however.

To reach the SB Denver must

1. avoid turnovers

2. start fast and play a full 60 minutes

3. get our pas rush into high gear

4. establish our run game

If we do these things we can go all the way -- and win the SB.
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We have been winning despite not playing our best game. This won't cut it in the playoffs, however.

To reach the SB Denver must

1. avoid turnovers

2. start fast and play a full 60 minutes

3. get our pas rush into high gear

4. establish our run game

5. score more points than the opponent

If we do these things we can go all the way -- and win the SB.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:04 AM   #86
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We have been winning despite not playing our best game. This won't cut it in the playoffs, however.

To reach the SB Denver must

1. avoid turnovers

2. start fast and play a full 60 minutes

3. get our pas rush into high gear

4. establish our run game

If we do these things we can go all the way -- and win the SB.
so they pretty much just have to win the Super Bowl to win the Super Bowl

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Is allowing a handoff on 3 and 17 go for 19 yards a turnover? Is allowing a monumental number of 3rd down conversions now officially called turnovers?

Guess the people that actually watched the game and were frustrated by our defense's inability to get off the field are fools, and people like you who simply read the newspaper stats on Monday morning are geniuses.

Astounded people don't remember the 14 play drives they shoved down our throat. Nobody is happier that Mays is gone than me, but that was a team loss.

Yeah, it was just a few unlucky turnovers that cost us that game.
Lets see, they scored a TD on one of those TOs...Thats 7 points.

DT fumbles at the 10 yard line...3 minimum

Magahee fumbles at the 10 yard linke with about 3:30 to go. Arguably thats at least 3 if not 7...

I watch every game. And I was equally frustrated with the defense, but you are straight crazy to discount these TOs. If we dont put the ball on the turf, we win the game, period.


Despite there 3rd down conversions, those 2 turnovers are a minimum 13 point swing. Do the math.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:38 AM   #88
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Lets see, they scored a TD on one of those TOs...Thats 7 points.

DT fumbles at the 10 yard line...3 minimum

Magahee fumbles at the 10 yard linke with about 3:30 to go. Arguably thats at least 3 if not 7...

I watch every game. And I was equally frustrated with the defense, but you are straight crazy to discount these TOs. If we dont put the ball on the turf, we win the game, period.


Despite there 3rd down conversions, those 2 turnovers are a minimum 13 point swing. Do the math.
Just because the score was close at the end does not mean we were ever in that game. I'm pretty sure if Brady and co. would have been full gas the whole game we would have lost by 4 + tds.

I feel like we are quite a bit better now though, Houston didn't show up so that's not really a good measure either. Either way, we will have to beat them to make to the SB.
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The Pats got 35 first downs against us in that game, and rushed for 251 yards. They killed us.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:55 PM   #90
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The Pats got 35 first downs against us in that game, and rushed for 251 yards. They killed us.
The Patriots had 444 yards total Offense, the Broncos had 394...not that big of a difference. The Patriots ran the ball so much to keep the ball out of Manning's hands. Using the old Shanahan (control the clock) playbook.

New Englands scored on approximately 50% of their drives, while Denver only scored on 33% of their drives. That's the real problem.

The Broncos redzone Offense and Defense is going to have to become much better. If not, they will lose. Obviously, Denver also has to be able to stop NE's running attack...which JDR has been working on ever since that game.
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