The Orange Mane motivated me…

[Obushma]

Originally Posted by Requiem

It doesn't promote the ideas of the Founding Fathers. It promotes a skewed view of history in order to pitch off a very easily identifiable ideology/belief system that you have demonstrated in the years on this forum. Pack up your wolf tickets and stop advertising on the forum for sales.

You lil ****ing douchbag, you wouldn't know an ideal from the founders if it came up and bit your little Marxist ass. If anyone tries to rewrite history its usually your lil college dropout ass.

Seems like a nice game Bob.

[W*GS]

Bob, does your game show America as being just for the white, straight, wealthy, male, and Protestant, or is it supposed to inform players that America is for all of us?

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Obushma

You lil ****ing douchbag, you wouldn't know an ideal from the founders if it came up and bit your little Marxist ass. If anyone tries to rewrite history its usually your lil college dropout ass.

Seems like a nice game Bob.

Never been a fan of Marxism, never will be.

When did I drop out of school?

You are just an irrational cynic.

Originally Posted by Bob

As you really now nothing about the Founding Fathers, their words, the Federalist Papers, the Constitution, The Articles of Confederation, and how special America is - not to mention the fact that you have never played the game - I don't respect your opinion on this issue. However, if you ever write a comic book titled "Marx & Me" I would be all ears as that is a topic you know something about.

I don't have to play the game to have an understanding of American political history. One of my degrees obtained from higher education is strongly linked to that though. How about you?

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Obushma

You lil ****ing douchbag, you wouldn't know an ideal from the founders if it came up and bit your little Marxist ass. If anyone tries to rewrite history its usually your lil college dropout ass.

Seems like a nice game Bob.

Do you take steroids or something? Seems like every time you come on here, you're pegging the Ahole-O-Meter.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Do you take steroids or something? Seems like every time you come on here, you're pegging the Ahole-O-Meter.

He is obviously not a mentally stable individual.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Obushma

You lil ****ing douchbag, you wouldn't know an ideal from the founders if it came up and bit your little Marxist ass. If anyone tries to rewrite history its usually your lil college dropout ass.

Seems like a nice game Bob.

Thanks!! But maybe I can make a new game for those who despise the principles upon which America was founded - I will call it Communoply and will only source Howard Zinn. The winner will be the player who is most effective at demonizing the rich and making everyone (except the chosen few of course) become equally poor. My only concern is that it might violate the copyrights certainly held by this administration.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Bob

Thanks!! But maybe I can make a new game for those who despise the principles upon which America was founded - I will call it Communoply and will only source Howard Zinn. The winner will be the player who is most effective at demonizing the rich and making everyone (except the chosen few of course) become equally poor. My only concern is that it might violate the copyrights certainly held by this administration.

I just hope you're not trying to make a living with comedy. Or boardgames, for that matter. Because if you were, it would put just another mouth on food stamps.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by Bob

Thanks!! But maybe I can make a new game for those who despise the principles upon which America was founded

Yeah, yeah - everyone who isn't a 'bagger or Christian is unAmerican.

Your "patriotism" is really ultranationalism. A few steps from fascism.

[Obushma]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Yeah, yeah - everyone who isn't a 'bagger or Christian is unAmerican.

Your "patriotism" is really ultranationalism. A few steps from fascism.

Wigggsy, must be hard for you to talk w/ Obama's nuts dangling off one side of your chin while Bush's nuts swing on the other side. Quite the mouthful.

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by Bob

Thanks!! But maybe I can make a new game for those who despise the principles upon which America was founded - I will call it Communoply and will only source Howard Zinn. The winner will be the player who is most effective at demonizing the rich and making everyone (except the chosen few of course) become equally poor. My only concern is that it might violate the copyrights certainly held by this administration.

Kolejka is like the communist version of Monopoly. But your game looks much more fun. We the People teaches us about liberty, Monopoly teaches us about capitalism, and Kiolejka teaches us about planned economies.


http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/85325/kolejka

[Bob]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Bob, does your game show America as being just for the white, straight, wealthy, male, and Protestant, or is it supposed to inform players that America is for all of us?

No, but you can learn about Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sitting Bull or the dozens of additional women and minorities that are well represented and honored in the game. You could also learn about Mary E. Bowser http://www.wethepeoplegame.com/wp-co...-portraits.htm - if you hadn't decided to dismiss something you have obviously not examined. (Not a very liberal value, by the way.) I hired an artist to create an image of Mary B - as the only photo of her is of such poor condition, one can barely make her out.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Yeah, yeah - everyone who isn't a 'bagger or Christian is unAmerican.

Your "patriotism" is really ultranationalism. A few steps from fascism.

Boy you have gotten lazy of late - if I was a few steps away from fascism I would be part of the national socialist movement - like the Nazis, and well, that would not fit well into my libertarian mindset. You want more state control - over people and institutions -- not me.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Arkie

Kolejka is like the communist version of Monopoly. But your game looks much more fun. We the People teaches us about liberty, Monopoly teaches us about capitalism, and Kiolejka teaches us about planned economies.


http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/85325/kolejka

Thanks, bro...

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Bob

Boy you have gotten lazy of late - if I was a few steps away from fascism I would be part of the national socialist movement - like the Nazis, and well, that would not fit well into my libertarian mindset. You want more state control - over people and institutions -- not me.

What's your opinion on Citizens United? Agree with Scalia? Or not?

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by Obushma

Wigggsy, must be hard for you to talk w/ Obama's nuts dangling off one side of your chin while Bush's nuts swing on the other side. Quite the mouthful.

You're speaking from experience, we can all see.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Requiem

Never been a fan of Marxism, never will be.

When did I drop out of school?

You are just an irrational cynic.



I don't have to play the game to have an understanding of American political history. One of my degrees obtained from higher education is strongly linked to that though. How about you?

I have a masters in rehabilitation counseling, a bachelors in English, a minor in history. I spend more time reading history from Pulitzer Prize winning authors, than I do blogging. I think with a few exceptions, left of center folks here would be okay, even pleasantly surprised with the history portion of the game - I admit to having a couple red-meat questions on my website, but I know my market. I am selling the game to small government inclined folks with religious inclinations. I am not selling the game to Berkley dropouts - that love Che and defecating of cop cars. Upon getting the game right of center folks will learn positive things about "left of center" folks like JFK, Rosa Parks, Jeannette Rankin, Helen Keller, Chester Arthur, Eldridge Clever, Martin Luther King Jr., Ida B. Wells-Barnett, Victoria Woodhull, and George Orwell - and that is from just some folks from one of five categories.

There were many times when I had to toss questions - that I wanted to be true but simply were not - as I dug deeper. I don't believe in Saul Alinsky's assertions that we have to demonize our political adversaries -to make them 100% on the side of the devil. I do believe that the Founders gave us something special (in terms of limited government) that we have gotten away from over the past 100 years. Do I mock Big Brother? Hell yes I do - as we are losing freedom under both parties.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

What's your opinion on Citizens United? Agree with Scalia? Or not?

Do unions have free speech? Why not big business and small businesses as well?

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I just hope you're not trying to make a living with comedy. Or boardgames, for that matter. Because if you were, it would put just another mouth on food stamps.

Haa! But isn't that the goal?

[cutthemdown]

you can have two people with masters degrees in history that still disagree on history. I'm not sure pulling a degree card really gets you much. I mean i have a degree in music but you don't see me telling you what bands to like lol!

[Bob]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

you can have two people with masters degrees in history that still disagree on history. I'm not sure pulling a degree card really gets you much. I mean i have a degree in music but you don't see me telling you what bands to like lol!

Good point -- but he was playing the "you are uneducated" card as the racist and homophobic were getting stale... so I thought I would try logic.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Bob

Good point -- but he was playing the "you are uneducated" card as the racist and homophobic were getting stale... so I thought I would try logic.

Cmon they never get tired of the racism card. Thats like a get out of conservative land free card.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Cmon they never get tired of the racism card. Thats like a get out of conservative land free card.

The sad thing is -- it works 50% of the time in silencing or discrediting view in which they disagree - so it will continue.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Cmon they never get tired of the racism card. Thats like a get out of conservative land free card.

The sad thing is -- it works 50% of the time in silencing or discrediting views in which they disagree - so it will continue.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Bob

I have a masters in rehabilitation counseling, a bachelors in English, a minor in history. I spend more time reading history from Pulitzer Prize winning authors, than I do blogging.

Admirable.

I admit to having a couple red-meat questions on my website, but I know my market. I am selling the game to small government inclined folks with religious inclinations.

Obviously.

I am not selling the game to Berkley dropouts - that love Che and defecating of cop cars.

Nice generalization.

Upon getting the game right of center folks will learn positive things about "left of center" folks like JFK, Rosa Parks, Jeannette Rankin, Helen Keller, Chester Arthur, Eldridge Clever, Martin Luther King Jr., Ida B. Wells-Barnett, Victoria Woodhull, and George Orwell - and that is from just some folks from one of five categories.

What about Harriet Tubman?

Hell yes I do - as we are losing freedom under both parties.

Will we get it back if we buy your board game?

And no, I wasn't pulling any card, I was curious. The response I got pretty much affirmed to me that you are operating on a rather narrow or limited view of history in order to get results from a specific audience. I didn't expect you to have a very history rich background given the nature of the cards shown on the website.

[Bob]

What about Harriet Tubman?

Yes, she has a card and Sojourner Truth – and several other African American women – I didn’t intend for the post to be a complete list, again it was just a sampling from one of 5 categories. Tubman, along with Fredrick Douglass are also on the game board on the “Liberty Matters” spaces. Both of whom I think capture the essence of liberty and remind folks of our past breeches of our sacred trust.


Will we get it back if we buy your board game?

Nope - but as the Bill of Rights and principles of limited government are not being taught with much substance in the public school system - I guess this is my small contribution. I feel strong enough, and I am perhaps stupid enough, to invest a great deal of $ in the attempt to teach others what I believe to be correct principles. It is better to do something constructive than yell at the TV, complain - or argue with those who will not change their opinions online.


And no, I wasn't pulling any card, I was curious. The response I got pretty much affirmed to me that you are operating on a rather narrow or limited view of history in order to get results from a specific audience. I didn't expect you to have a very history rich background given the nature of the cards shown on the website.

When one has 500 history cards to play with - that is obviously limiting - but I think you are wrong on this point. I will admit that the game history is weighted toward the revolutionary war era, but that is intentional, as I think we need to get back to our roots in relation to understanding liberty. Also, as the game is titled We the People Fight Tyranny- one category (100 cards) address America’s foundational documents.