Dear New DC, - The Orange Mane

TheReverend · 01-27-2012, 07:07 AM

Whoever you are,

Please institute this defense at the very least in package looks, but I would prefer it to be the base: create a 43 Double Fan which would obviously be played out of an under front (akin to below only with tighter splits than the 3T DT and 7 DE):

Background:

A double fan classically comes from 34 looks. Essentially it means the DL is going to adjust their splits so they're basically heads up on the opposing IOL (NT over C, DEs over Gs). What makes this a double fan is the pass rushing ability of BOTH 34 OLBs (see Pittsburgh's Harrison and Woodley -- also note the leaps and bounds of improvement of Washington's defense by adding Kerrigan opposite Orakpo and often playing double fans). Both OLBs will them line up over the tackles.
What does this create? One on one match ups across the board. Additionally, blitzing an ILB over the A gaps gives him a STRAIGHT shot at the QB with AT MOST a RB to try and stop him.

Von Miller gives us the freedom to apply this to our 43.

Imagine Elvis, Thomas, Bunkley, Ayers, Miller all one on one against the opposing OL. Getting wood yet? Good, let's go deeper.

Press coverage behind it. Lackluster for turnovers, for sure (at least until the effectiveness starts to embolden to jumping routes and putting 6 on the board with semi-regularity), but provides the rush and blitz another second to get to the QB and will be certain to cause both incompletions and sacks (*probably even more prominently intentional groundings) in spades. Press coverage (needed upgrades at RCB and nickel back), with a cover 1 safety (Moore dependent on development), and a box safety (Carter) to baby sit the TE to accommodate a potentially blitzing LB.

Enough p***Y footing around when we have significant pressure weapons.
Kill em all, let Tebow sort em out.

montrose · 01-27-2012, 07:11 AM

Roger that...

Butterscotch Stallion · 01-27-2012, 07:11 AM

I prefer the 3-8 we ran against NE.

eddie mac · 01-27-2012, 07:13 AM

I dont think we'll be able to get an elephant in that new Nike gear. Would a baby one do

jhns · 01-27-2012, 07:15 AM

A little OT, but you made me wonder. Have any names even been mentioned for d-coordinator yet? I just realized I haven't seen anything about us looking at guys. Is that a sign we are just promoting from within?

Also, more on topic, how much of the defense was Allen? Did our scheme look a lot different than what Fox had in Carolina or will we see something new with each new coordinator? I didn't watch the Panthers much.

BroncoBen · 01-27-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jhns

A little OT, but you made me wonder. Have any names even been mentioned for d-coordinator yet? I just realized I haven't seen anything about us looking at guys. Is that a sign we are just promoting from within?

Also, more on topic, how much of the defense was Allen? Did our scheme look a lot different than what Fox had in Carolina or will we see something new with each new coordinator? I didn't watch the Panthers much.

I know.. I was a little surprised to hear John Fox say he was in no rush to name a DC.

To me that sounds like the Broncos have someone on staff they are promoting.

I also wonder if Dennis Allen is going to bring any of the other coaches from the Broncos to Oakland.

Beantown Bronco · 01-27-2012, 07:24 AM

What are the Vegas odds of whoever it is, coming in on day one and quoting some variation of the following within the first 3 minutes of his introductory press conference:

"We're going to cut the DL loose."

alkemical · 01-27-2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBen

I know.. I was a little surprised to hear John Fox say he was in no rush to name a DC.

To me that sounds like the Broncos have someone on staff they are promoting.

I also wonder if Dennis Allen is going to bring any of the other coaches from the Broncos to Oakland.

They could take Tuten for Strength & conditioning....

Gort · 01-27-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Butterscotch Stallion

I prefer the 3-8 we ran against NE.

don't forget the 10-yard cushions. those are really effective at letting a receiver get up to speed unmolested so they can make a move and juke out our young secondary players. i just l-o-v-e those 10-yard cushions. they remind me of the Slowick era... good times.

alkemical · 01-27-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Butterscotch Stallion

I prefer the 3-8 we ran against NE.

Or the Ray Rhodes 2-9....

Beantown Bronco · 01-27-2012, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by alkemical

Or the Ray Rhodes 2-9....

With 220 lb Ian Gold being one of the "2".

alkemical · 01-27-2012, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

With 220 lb Ian Gold being one of the "2".

Mind=Blown!

Of course, not having any talent on the DL....

damn - just typing that made me realize how ****ty the DL has been....for that long.

gyldenlove · 01-27-2012, 07:46 AM

This looks suspeciously like a wide-9 with the SLB playing the role of the SDE and the SDE taking away the B gap run to the right which is normally very vulnerable.

TheReverend · 01-27-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

This looks suspeciously like a wide-9 with the SLB playing the role of the SDE and the SDE taking away the B gap run to the right which is normally very vulnerable.

That's because you clearly looked at the picture and didn't bother reading the post. Beneath you, this was.

BroncoInferno · 01-27-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by montrose

Roger that...

I'm not going to get my hopes up for Del Rio. I expect the uninspired, Slowik-style hiring of Smith, especially if Allen is sniffing around.

gyldenlove · 01-27-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

That's because you clearly looked at the picture and didn't bother reading the post. Beneath you, this was.

Damn, I could have sworn my chair was beneath me - I shall consider this new theory of yours.

schaaf · 01-27-2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by montrose

Roger that...

Hey Raj, you heard anything about the possibility of Del Rio

vancejohnson82 · 01-27-2012, 08:40 AM

Andre Goodman would be strongly against this

Garcia Bronco · 01-27-2012, 08:44 AM

We'd need to sign Bunkley and Thomas first.

vancejohnson82 · 01-27-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

We'd need to sign Bunkley and Thomas first.

it's going to be very hard to sign both of them with all of the attention they are sure to garner this off-season

scorpio · 01-27-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

We'd need to sign Bunkley and Thomas first.

Bunkley is going to get big money on the open market. I'm not optimistic about keeping him.

bowtown · 01-27-2012, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhns

A little OT, but you made me wonder. Have any names even been mentioned for d-coordinator yet? I just realized I haven't seen anything about us looking at guys. Is that a sign we are just promoting from within?

Also, more on topic, how much of the defense was Allen? Did our scheme look a lot different than what Fox had in Carolina or will we see something new with each new coordinator? I didn't watch the Panthers much.

Hopefully they are taking a hard look at Spags or Nolan.

Spider · 01-27-2012, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyldenlove

This looks suspeciously like a wide-9 with the SLB playing the role of the SDE and the SDE taking away the B gap run to the right which is normally very vulnerable.

no it isnt , but no plan is going to work as long as we are giving Cushions with no pressure up front and no line backer that can cover a TE ........

Beantown Bronco · 01-27-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

Hopefully they are taking a hard look at Spags or Nolan.

My thoughts exactly.

Killericon · 01-27-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

Hopefully they are taking a hard look at Spags or Nolan.

Both have jobs already.

01-27-2012, 07:07 AM	#1
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,026 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	Dear New DC, Whoever you are, Please institute this defense at the very least in package looks, but I would prefer it to be the base: create a 43 Double Fan which would obviously be played out of an under front (akin to below only with tighter splits than the 3T DT and 7 DE): Background: A double fan classically comes from 34 looks. Essentially it means the DL is going to adjust their splits so they're basically heads up on the opposing IOL (NT over C, DEs over Gs). What makes this a double fan is the pass rushing ability of BOTH 34 OLBs (see Pittsburgh's Harrison and Woodley -- also note the leaps and bounds of improvement of Washington's defense by adding Kerrigan opposite Orakpo and often playing double fans). Both OLBs will them line up over the tackles. What does this create? One on one match ups across the board. Additionally, blitzing an ILB over the A gaps gives him a STRAIGHT shot at the QB with AT MOST a RB to try and stop him. Von Miller gives us the freedom to apply this to our 43. Imagine Elvis, Thomas, Bunkley, Ayers, Miller all one on one against the opposing OL. Getting wood yet? Good, let's go deeper. Press coverage behind it. Lackluster for turnovers, for sure (at least until the effectiveness starts to embolden to jumping routes and putting 6 on the board with semi-regularity), but provides the rush and blitz another second to get to the QB and will be certain to cause both incompletions and sacks (probably even more prominently intentional groundings) in spades. Press coverage (needed upgrades at RCB and nickel back), with a cover 1 safety (Moore dependent on development), and a box safety (Carter) to baby sit the TE to accommodate a potentially blitzing LB. Enough p**Y footing around when we have significant pressure weapons. Kill em all, let Tebow sort em out.

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01-27-2012, 07:11 AM	#2
montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	Roger that...

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01-27-2012, 07:15 AM	#5
jhns I'm all up in your face but you still can't C me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha Posts: 12,405 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	A little OT, but you made me wonder. Have any names even been mentioned for d-coordinator yet? I just realized I haven't seen anything about us looking at guys. Is that a sign we are just promoting from within? Also, more on topic, how much of the defense was Allen? Did our scheme look a lot different than what Fox had in Carolina or will we see something new with each new coordinator? I didn't watch the Panthers much.

01-27-2012, 07:24 AM	#7
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,049 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	What are the Vegas odds of whoever it is, coming in on day one and quoting some variation of the following within the first 3 minutes of his introductory press conference: "We're going to cut the DL loose."

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gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,037 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	This looks suspeciously like a wide-9 with the SLB playing the role of the SDE and the SDE taking away the B gap run to the right which is normally very vulnerable.

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vancejohnson82 Drama and Mediocrity I'm Afraid of Ty Law Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 5,990 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ	Andre Goodman would be strongly against this

01-27-2012, 08:44 AM	#19
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	We'd need to sign Bunkley and Thomas first.