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Housh...

Broncoman13 — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:01:05 GMT

A Raven... details coming soon I'm sure.

The strong are only getting stronger. Looks like they may have a real shot at the AFC.

Fantasy Footballers, Here's A Question... Re: Drafting/Internet Connectivity

RhymesayersDU — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:38:58 GMT

Have any of you guys hosted an in-person draft with everybody from your league? This year I decided I wanted to start a league of only my friends in this area, so that we could draft together, generally talk **** with each other, and have some fun.

Draft is tonight. Myself included there will be 10 of us. I decided that just everybody should just bring their laptops over as opposed to doing it manually. My question is internet connectivity. Should I be worried or have some kind of backup plan? Will 10 people be able to access the wireless and/or plug directly into my internet at the same time? It's not something I had really planned for, and in hindsight really should have.

Leinart signs with Houston

gunns — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:34:08 GMT

Scheftner just reported.

Tim Tebow powerful enough to sink Padres with only his Haircut.

v2micca — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:30:01 GMT

http://espn.go.com/mlb/notebook/_/pa...ight-clubhouse

It's Tim Tebow's fault.

Well, hold on � it's hard to blame Tebow himself. After all, the Denver Broncos' quarterback's now-infamous Friar Tuck haircut was hardly a personal style choice. It was instead part of the familiar NFL rookie hazing ritual used by his new Broncos teammates, who said they were trying to make Tebow look like the Statue of Liberty. Instead, Tebow was a brown robe, rope belt and baseball bat away from looking like that old swingin' Padre team logo from back in the day. Now, the San Diego Padres, who had won 13 of 16 before this 10-game losing streak, are dropping like a stone in the NL West. It's The Curse of Tebow's Haircut.

Nice of Tebow to help out the other Colorado Team down the stretch.

Revis signs

BigPlayShay — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:04:05 GMT

Breaking on ESPN right now.

Housh being looked at by skins and the fade

broncswin — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 04:21:42 GMT

Fox 31 just mentioned this on the sports report....wow...if the raiders get this guy, that would be a good pickup...he is not a true number one, but is a tough wr.

Would we want to look at this guy, or is gaff and loyd better...i know they have our system down much better, which is a huge plus.

tickets available - 2010 season

mwill07 — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:21:37 GMT

OManers>

I have season tickets available for most games this season. I've been trying to move them on e-bay, stubhub, craigslist, etc. I've had some success, but honestly, with the season rapidly approaching, I'm starting to get a little nervous. I'm asking slightly more than that via the retail outlets, but I'd let them for to O-maners for cost - simply to make sure that Mile High is filled with Bronco fans.

I know - some of y'all are gonna flame me for trying to profit on this and not being a good fan - hear me out. I was born and raised in Cheyenne, and have been a loyal fan since forever. I put my name on the list when I graduated from college in '98, figuring I might be in Colorado by then. Well, my career took me in a different direction and I'm in South Carolina when my number came up...I couldn't say no. I would like to keep them so that when ever I do end up moving back to the Front Range, my tickets will be in hand.

Last year a buddy of mine in Cheyenne bought the whole season from me. This year, with the economy doing worse, he wasn't able to make it happen...I figured I'd try to sell them. So far, I've managed to move all the pre-season games (at a discounted rate), and the Colts game. The rest are available. I don't want to sell the SD game though - my wife and I are planning on flying out to Denver for that game - give us a chance to sit in our seats for the first time. Really - that's my objective in trying to make a little scratch - be able to get one game for essentially free.

So - if any of y'all want some tickets, drop me a note and we'll make something happen.

Ticket info: sec 539, row 10, two available. Face value: $58 each.

Thanks!

What is your preferred FF rankings site?

Chris — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:41:26 GMT

Your preferred FF rankings site?

I realise there is a separate FF forum... but let's face it... no one uses it.

America's Massive Over-Reaction to 911

Rohirrim — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:07:09 GMT

A very small number of Al Queda lunatics got lucky and were able to deliver a horrible blow on America, at least symbolically. They should have been stopped. We had the info available but our systems had some built in fails, like the CIA not talking to the FBI. Al Queda has done nothing of any order of magnitude since. But the military industrial complex has used 911 like the goose that laid the golden egg. For them, it has been a bonanza:

Here are some of the highlights. Since September 11, 2001, the U.S. government has created or reconfigured at least 263 organizations to tackle some aspect of the war on terror. The amount of money spent on intelligence has risen by 250 percent, to $75 billion (and that’s the public number, which is a gross underestimate). That’s more than the rest of the world spends put together. Thirty-three new building complexes have been built for intelligence bureaucracies alone, occupying 17 million square feet—the equivalent of 22 U.S. Capitols or three Pentagons. Five miles southeast of the White House, the largest government site in 50 years is being built—at a cost of $3.4 billion—to house the largest bureaucracy after the Pentagon and the Department of Veterans Affairs: the Department of Homeland Security, which has a workforce of 230,000 people.
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/04/z...d-to-9-11.html

Conservatives are worried about the growing power of the state. Surely this usurpation is more worrisome than a few federal stimulus programs. When James Madison pondered this issue, he came to a simple conclusion: “Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germs of every other … In war, too, the discretionary power of the executive is extended and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people.

“No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual war,” Madison concluded.

Report: Haynesworth unlikely to start opener

The MVPlaya — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:40:27 GMT

Who wants to bet that Shanahan won't catch any heat with this one if it happens, yet Haynesworth will get all the heat? Yet when McDaniels does something similar (Marshall), he's the worst coach in the world and Marshall is as innocent as a baby?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5535885

Report: More Albert Haynesworth drama

The Albert Haynesworth drama with the Washington Redskins reportedly isn't over yet.

Haynesworth, the Redskins' $100 million defensive tackle who struggled to pass his conditioning test in training camp, is unlikely to start Washington's season opener against the Dallas Cowboys after a disappointing performance in the team's final preseason game, The Washington Post reported, citing unnamed sources.

Mosley: Smear Campaign Continues
The well-orchestrated campaign against Albert Haynesworth from within the Redskins organization is starting to get old, Matt Mosley writes. Blog

Haynesworth participated in 49 of the Redskins' 55 defensive snaps on Thursday against the Cardinals but disappointed the Washington coaching staff with his apparent lack of effort, the newspaper reported. Two sources termed Haynesworth's performance in the game as "awful."

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan has lost his patience with Haynesworth, the sources told The Post, and the 6-foot-6, 350-pound defensive tackle took part in only a few snaps in Saturday's practice.

He was moved back to nose tackle in the practice and removed from the nickle package, one of the sources told the newspaper. Haynesworth had been starting at right end this preseason.

While Haynesworth's starting status is in doubt, Shanahan said he's confident that quarterback Donovan McNabb, who has a sprained left ankle, will be able to start Sunday night.

"Yeah, I feel very good about him being ready to go," Shanahan said on his coach's show on WRC-TV, according to The Post. "In fact, I think he'll be able to practice in the next couple of days. And I feel very good about the direction he's headed."

Haynesworth, meanwhile, appears to once again be headed in the wrong direction.

On Friday, when he was asked to explain why Haynesworth played in the team's preseason finale -- 31 of his teammates didn't even suit up -- Shanahan sang a familiar refrain.

"He's got to get in football shape," Shanahan said. "For the same reasons we've talked about. We got to get him some playing time so he can get back in football shape. I got to take a look at the film to tell you exactly how he played, but that's one of the reasons he's playing defensive end and nose tackle positions."

Haynesworth has been a thorn in Shanahan's side since the coach took the Redskins job in January. Haynesworth drew Shanahan's ire by staying away from the offseason program and later lobbied for a trade because he didn't want to play nose tackle in the team's new 3-4 defense. Shanahan gave Haynesworth a chance to leave -- provided Haynesworth didn't stay around to accept a $21 million contract bonus on April 1. Haynesworth took the bonus.

Haynesworth also skipped a mandatory minicamp and was fined. When he showed up for training camp, he was made to pass a conditioning test before he could practice. After several failed attempts and several days of idleness because of a sore knee, he finally passed the test on the 10th day of camp.

Haynesworth then missed another week of training camp due to illness. Shanahan gave varying explanations for Haynesworth's idleness each day. The coach initially said Haynesworth "just was sick," then said the cause was dehydration, then finally said it was "more of a headache than anything else."

The Washington Post, however, reported that Haynesworth has rhabdomyolysis, which is a condition that causes the rapid breakdown of skeletal muscle due to injury to muscle tissue. A Redskins official told ESPN the team was unaware that Haynesworth had this condition.

Despite all the drama, Haynesworth was still expected to play a key role in the Redskins' new 3-4 defense.

The Redskins declined comment when reached by The Post, but team spokesman Tony Wyllie said in an e-mail that Shanahan would answer questions on Monday.

Five Added to Practice Squad

Requiem — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:28:24 GMT

Quote:

Broncos add 5 players to the practice squad: LB Kevin Alexander, WR Britt Davis, TE Riar Geer, S Kyle McCarthy and LB Worrell Williams.

Via Denver Broncos Facebook.

Great Debate: Will Tim Tebow make it?

The MVPlaya — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:50:53 GMT

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...bate-tim-tebow

Tebow is one of the most talked-about players in the NFL and he hasn�t even played in a regular-season game. The Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback from Florida is a polarizing wonder. Tebow�s NFL future has been serious water-cooler conversation ever since Denver shocked the NFL by trading three draft picks to move up and take him with the No. 25 pick in April. Everybody has an opinion and the opinions vary.

And that is the case with ESPN.com senior writer John Clayton and AFC West blogger Bill Williamson. Clayton is taking the stance that Tebow�s game will not translate to the NFL, while Williamson believes it will.

Let�s get started:

John Clayton: Bill, we were at Broncos camp at the same time, which is why I�m surprised we have come to such different opinions. Because I know you so well, I know you are an optimist. Like most people, you would like to see Tebow succeed as a quarterback. I would like to see him succeed too. At the moment, though, I don�t see it in the immediate future and when I say immediate future, I�m thinking the next two, maybe three, years.

Remember how we watched Tebow throw with the proper mechanics in warm-ups. He kept the ball high and was consistent with his release point in pre-practice. Then we watched practice and some of the old habits returned. He would throw the ball with more of a sidearm delivery. At times, there would be a little hitch in the throw. The release was slow and sometimes the passes weren�t accurate.

In sports, it�s hard to change habits. While it�s possible for him to fix the delivery in time, it�s going to take at least two years. I give Josh McDaniels credit, he recognized the dilemma and covered the organization by giving Kyle Orton a one-year contract extension. Both of us agree Orton is good, not great. It�s also nice that he recognizes that both of us respect his abilities, leadership and the way he runs an offense.

What I like most about watching Tebow is his dedication. He won�t fail because of a lack of effort. How about the extra stretching and muscle-building exercises he does at practice? Too bad we can�t find a "throw doctor�" we can send him to for a quick fix.

Bill Williamson: Mechanics is a fair enough place to start on Tebow. That, of course, is the biggest knock on him. He has an awkward delivery, there�s no doubt about it. But I don�t think it�s a sure sign of failure for a quarterback. Philip Rivers doesn�t have the prettiest motion in the league, nor did the late Steve McNair. Rivers is an elite player and McNair was an NFL MVP. They were able to adjust in time and Tebow will have time.

Even though we will see Tebow as a rookie in special formations such as the Wildcat, he probably won�t start until 2012 unless there is an injury to Orton. Rivers and McNair sat and they were better for it. Plus, Tebow already has made strides in a short time under McDaniels� guidance. He�s a much better quarterback today than he was the day he was drafted four-plus months ago. He got better as the offseason program went on and he made improvements in training camp and in the preseason. Tebow�s delivery appeared to shorten as the preseason went on. He is working on improving himself. Imagine what is going to happen when the learning curve continues for two years?

Plus, several NFL folks I have talked to, including Rivers, say that Tebow doesn�t necessarily have to refine his entire motion, just naturally work on it and still be the player he is comfortable being. I think taking this player�s delivery and making that the premise for his ultimate failure may be a tad short-sighted.

JC: Because you covered the Broncos in Denver, you can appreciate this: Denver is one of the toughest cities to be an NFL quarterback, and I think the Broncos made a big mistake by hyping him up after the draft.

Tebow's Got Flaws -- So What?
Sure, Tim Tebow has flaws -- but every player does. David Fleming looks at 12 Hall of Famers who overcame major flaws to get to Canton. Fleming

The biggest mistake was making him a first-round pick. Quarterbacks taken in the first round tread on John Elway�s turf. Those who tread on Elway�s turf get worse than turf toe. They eventually become unemployed. The worst I remember was Tommy Maddox. He came to town when Elway was still a top quarterback. He eventually had to go into Arena Football and then the Steelers to have any kind of a successful career. The quarterback expectations eventually caught up to Brian Griese and Jake Plummer.

Now, here comes Tebow, perhaps the greatest college leader of our time. By him being taken in the first round, Tebow jerseys flew out of stores. Fans expected his college skills to translate into the NFL with instant success. Columnists in town took their sides, and some of the most influential called for McDaniels to have guts and just go with Tebow. Had that happened, Tebow might be destined for the Arena League.

In Denver, as you know, good isn�t good enough when it comes to quarterbacks. Griese was kicked away because he was a 60-percent thrower but a 50-percent winner. Plummer�s time ran out because he was a 50-percent thrower and a 60-percent winner. The standard in Denver is Elway, the ultimate arm and the ultimate winner. He carried the Broncos. Tebow can�t do that right away and I�m not sold he ever will. Even if he fixes his bad throwing mechanics, he has the chance to start his career as a 50-percent thrower. Because the talent around him is suspect, Orton, who is good, is going to struggle to make the Broncos a 50-percent winner this season. That means Tebow would have better than a 50-50 chance of being a disaster.

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Tim Tebow's "Friar Tuck" haircut is just one example of him being a team guy.
BW: John, I think any team that would have drafted Tebow would have pumped him up. It goes with the territory of drafting a quarterback in the first round. Select Tebow in the first round and the situation magnifies greatly. This was a great draft with several top-flight players and Tebow stole the draft. The draft was all about the No. 25 pick. That wasn�t the case last year when Miami drafted Illinois cornerback Vontae Davis at No.25.

Tebow brings electricity. It�s because he has great intangibles. I know intangibles don�t pay the bills, but they can be a great difference-maker. Tebow has special intangibles. People gravitate toward him, including his teammates.

This whole Tebow Mania deal in Denver had potential to be a disaster. Tebow�s jersey instantly became the biggest seller in the NFL and Tebow is Topic A in Denver. This is the most popular team in the state of Colorado and all anyone wants to talk about is the rookie quarterback. That could have led to jealousy and hostility. It hasn�t happened.

It hasn�t happened because Tebow immediately earned the respect of his veteran teammates by being humble and working hard. Veterans such as future Hall of Fame cornerback Champ Bailey have been wowed by Tebow�s work ethic and attitude. Remember that hideous Friar Tuck haircut Tebow's teammates gave him prior to an open scrimmage? Tebow didn�t fret. He embraced the hazing. He�s a team guy.

During the preseason, his teammates have remarked how Tebow already has controlled the huddle. The Broncos believe in Tebow just as his teammates at Florida did. Elway and John Lynch have raved about Tebow�s intangibles after meeting him. If you impress these two guys, you have something going for you.

JC: After we left Broncos camp, I watched Tebow�s first preseason game and came to another disturbing conclusion. Because Tebow is fearless, I worry about his health.

That touchdown run he had in his first preseason game was exciting, but it also reminded me of the pounding Tebow took in college trying to get Florida to be a great college power. As a college quarterback, Tebow was bigger and more powerful than a lot of the linebackers and defensive backs trying to tackle him. In the pros, he�s a target and I worry about him getting concussions or more injuries. That preseason touchdown run bruised his ribs, and the injury was a result of Tebow not playing it safe. That�s the style that made him so good in college and it�s the style that could make his career ever so short in the NFL.

As great as Tebow is as an athlete, he runs a 4.7 40, which isn�t particularly fast for a NFL quarterback. His footwork isn�t the greatest either. In many ways, Tebow looks like a combination of Steve Grogan and Joe Kapp. Sorry for going old school on you, buddy, but the point I�m trying to make is what worked for Grogan and Kapp back in the day doesn�t work now in a league dominated by great passers.

Michael Vick is a better athlete and better thrower than Tebow will ever be and I�m not sold he can be a winning quarterback in the post-2005 NFL, which is dominated by quarterbacks who are accurate and can run the no-huddle flawlessly. Vince Young is the ultimate compromise that might work because he�s a 6-foot-5 quarterback who is faster than Tebow and is always looking downfield when he rolls out of the pocket. I fear Tebow tucking the ball away and just running, absorbing a big hit.

I do think Tebow�s in good hands with McDaniels now that Orton will be the starter for the next two years. I just hope he stays healthy, which he will if they groom him to be an eventual backup and see where he is as a developmental quarterback by 2012.

BW: John, I don�t think there is any gray area. I don�t think Tebow is going to be a decent backup. He is either going to be a star or be a failed experiment. And I don�t see him failing. He is simply not going to allow himself to fail.

In one of my conversations with Tebow, he admitted that he is afraid of failure. He is afraid to let down his coaches, teammates and family. The fire burns. That�s what McDaniels saw during the famous combine meeting when the Broncos� brass fell in love with Tebow.

I have talked to countless folks about Tebow. There are two schools of thought when it comes to whether his game translates to the NFL. One is that Tebow is so focused and so determined that there is no way he�ll fail. The other is that he already has gotten all he can out of limited ability and has peaked as a player. Two head coaches have told me that, as have a couple of general managers.

However, there are many personnel folks who think Tebow will thrive under McDaniels� guidance. I point to the immense improvement he already has made as evidence that Tebow has not peaked. He learns from his mistakes and he gets better. He reads defenses and senses oncoming defenders better than he did a month ago. He handles the pocket better than he did earlier in camp. Tebow is an ascending player. There�s little doubt in my mind.

Julius Jones released by Seattle

McBronco_Doug — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:59:28 GMT

Should the Broncos give him a look?

Broncos Sign Tackle Christopher Clark, Waive Atkins

McBronco_Doug — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:30:44 GMT

thegarymiller

Broncos claim offensive tackle Christopher Clark and cut Baracka Atkins.

Ranking the 32 NFL Head Coaches

TheReverend — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:07:11 GMT

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=tsn-166944

There isn�t a single rookie head coach in the NFL this season, so it�s an ideal time to rank �em, 1-32. Sporting News' NFL writers and editors factored in championships, won-lost record, creativity, motivational skills, ability to limit turnovers/penalties and hiring and maintaining a quality staff. Then it was time to see what the players working for the top 10 coaches thought.

26. Josh McDaniels, Broncos

1. Bill Belichick, Patriots

QB Tom Brady(notes): �I�ve always been privileged to play for Coach Belichick, who I�ve always said is the best coach in the history of the league. In terms of his work ethic and his preparation, he�s as diligent as he�s ever been. �

4. Mike Shanahan, Redskins

MLB London Fletcher(notes): � Coach Shanahan should be the No. 1-rated coach in the league. He�s won back-to-back Super Bowls. He�s a proven winner. His approach to the game, the way he handles this team, is great. � He treats us like men .�

"Rescued Money"

The MVPlaya — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:45:58 GMT

MileHighReport
'Rescued Money' is $$ SAVED by acquiring a player that completly outplays their original salary. See Doom, or in McD's case, P-Cox and Syd
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MileHighReport
Lastly,I thinkwe need some way for 'Rescued Money' to be tabulated. What is 'Rescued Money'? #Broncos

Practice squad?

gyldenlove — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:42:31 GMT

Any news about the practice squad yet? if any news comes in I hope some of the twitterites will relay it for us none twits.

Slowshon vs Charles

Bob's your Information Minister — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:08:47 GMT

The tradition continues. Both of our teams have young running backs. I'd say we both have young, elite running backs, but we both know Slowshon Morono will never reach elite status.

I believe Jamaal Charles will be a great NFL running back. By the end of this season, people will be talking about him in the same breath with Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson. Charles was dynamite last year and has shown no signs of slowing down this preseason. In fact, he looks even better, and it doesn't hurt that the Chiefs have an improved offensive line.

Did Slowshown get any faster over the summer? I noticed his longest run this preseason was...wait...0 yards...wait...did he even play this preseason?

Oh, he's hurt.

Well, hopefully he can make it back by the season opener. I want this competition to be fair. But is that even possible? I mean...look at this ****!

Damn. Here's to 2010. I hope Slowshon can make this thread interesting. I know Jamaal will!

Broncos vs steelers preseason highlights

Broncosfreak_56 — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:37:41 GMT

Dunno if anyone is interested, but it's by the same guy that made those awesome highlights last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aEit...layer_embedded

Andre Brown Now A Bronco

Broncoman13 — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:54:35 GMT

Hey MVP, say goodbye to your superstar Hall. Brown is about to take his spot.

http://www.kffl.com/team/15/nfl

Happy birthday to JCMElway (39) and bro1ncos (40)

Crushaholic — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:18:05 GMT

Enjoy...:strong:

bears

titan — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:07:03 GMT

This NFL advance scout doesn't think much of Jay Cutler:

'The person who is going to kill this team is the quarterback,'' he said of Jay Cutler. ''Don't take my word for it. Talk to somebody who really knows quarterback fundamentals, and fundamentally this guy is a nightmare right now. Where he holds the ball, how he winds up. His lower half is completely out of sync with his upper half. He almost looks like a guy out in the parking lot throwing a football. Fundamentally, as far as stepping into his throws, setting his feet, the way he carries the ball, it's not very good.

''He's got this everything-is-going-to-be-OK attitude. I don't believe it for a minute. I think he lacks confidence in his offensive line and isn't on the same page with his receivers.''

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/footb...neil05.article

Interesting tidbit on Vincent Jackson

Black96WS6 — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:30:57 GMT

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...fl-cutdown-day

These 3 paragraphs are really telling....it shows it's Vincent Jackson's ridiculous contract demands that are the real issue here, and that the Chargers have been more than willing to try and unload him:

Quote:

At first, one NFC general manager told me, they asked for first- and third-round draft picks as compensation, but when that didn't fly they lowered their demands. In the end, he said, the price dropped so much so that, by the close of business Saturday, "they'd take almost anything."

Yet no deal was made, and there's a reason.

"The money," he said. "It's way too much. They're asking for more than Brandon Marshall [five years, $50 million], and there's no way people are interested."

cut all the first day picks...here is why

bronco0608 — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:16:40 GMT

Where did Rod Smith come from? An undrafted free agent should never make a football team, right? Where did Shannon Sharpe come from? A 7th round draft pick should never make a football team, right? Where did Tyrone Braxton, Eddie Mcafferey, Terrell Davis, and countless others come from? The bottom of the barrell.

In football, there is so little that seperates a first round pick from a 6th round pick talent wise. They all run the 40 in the same time, lift 225 pounds the same, and run the shuttle within tenths of second of each other. How does a Jared Allen dominate professional football when he wasnt even drafted during the first day? How does John Randall make the professional football hall of fame when he wasn't even drafted? What if those guys were cut in place of first day busts on their teams?

Football drafts are hard. You never know what a guy can do until they play with you. Even the greatest draft evaluators flame out. Pittsburgh ruled the 70s but couldn't buy a player during the 80s. Even the greatest talent evaluators, aka Bill Polian, hit on about 35% of the players they draft.

Much kudos to McDaniels for not fearing the ramifications of drafting a bust in early round. No one wants a repeat here of a player staying on a team just because they are a high draft pick --ala George Foster or a Willie Middlebrooks -- when they have no right to be even playing on professional football team.

Draft picks are a gamble, you win some, you lose some. So why wait to get rid of the chards?

Barack Obama Makes Over Oval Office, Makes Dumb Mistake

McSkillet — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:51:12 GMT

"A mistake has been made in the Oval Office makeover that goes beyond the beige.

President Obama's new presidential rug seemed beyond reproach, with quotations from Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. woven along its curved edge.

Except it's not a King quote. The words belong to a long-gone Bostonian champion of social progress. His roots in the republic ran so deep that his grandfather commanded the Minutemen at the Battle of Lexington."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090305100.html

I'd like to know how much that rug cost you and me.

dancing dog

uplink — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:50:01 GMT

Liberal Terrorist Tried to Force Discovery Channel to Show More Global Warming Content

McSkillet — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 03:37:28 GMT

"The gunman was reportedly angry over the Discovery Channel's lack of programming on global warming.

Lee said he experienced an ''awakening" when he watched former Vice President Al Gore's documentary 'An Inconvenient Truth.'"

http://www.ketknbc.com/news/discover...global-warming

The Global Warming Nutzos are officially a radical death cult.

Mayweather Jr confirms he's a piece of ****

gunns — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:26:22 GMT

Mayweather apologizes for racist tirade

By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
9 hours, 37 minutes ago

Floyd Mayweather Jr. took to the Internet again on Friday, this time to apologize for a profanity-filled racist rant against Manny Pacquiao that he recorded on uStream.com Thursday.

Mayweather continued to mispronounce Pacquiao�s surname, repeatedly referring to him as �Pooch-ee-ow.� But a day after making racist and homophobic comments on uStream, Mayweather offered an apology to those who were offended.

�I do want to apologize for what happened the other night,� Mayweather said. �I want to apologize to everybody. They felt it was a racist comment that came from me. I don�t have a racist bone in my body, you know. I love everybody. Some of my guys are Muslims. Some of my guys are Jews. Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Mexicans, whites, it doesn�t matter. There is nothing but love in my heart, you know what I�m saying?

�I heard this from a few people. The only thing I want to say is, anybody who was offended by what I said the other day, I apologize as a man. I apologize. Forgive me for saying what I said. I was just having fun. I didn�t really mean it, nothing in a bad way. So let�s stay on this roller coaster ride and keep riding, baby. It�s all love.�

Prior to apologizing, Mayweather embraced two Asian women, who said they were Thai and Chinese. He asked one of them if she spoke Thai and kept asking her to �Speak some Thai.� As he embraced them, he promised them front-row tickets for a fight with Pacquiao. Representatives of each camp twice in the last nine months attempted to make a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, but were unable to finalize a deal.

Mayweather also sent condolences to his former promoter, Bob Arum of Top Rank, with whom he has long had a contentious relationship. The body of Arum�s 49-year-old son, John, was discovered in the Cascade Mountains in Washington state Friday. John Arum appeared to have fallen 300 feet in a hiking accident.

John Arum had been missing for several days and it�s not clear in the video whether Mayweather was aware the body had been discovered. However, he offered consoling words to Bob Arum.

�God bless Bob Arum and his whole family, because I heard that Bob Arum�s son had a bad accident,� Mayweather said. �Love to the whole Arum family.�

In the original video, he referred to Pacquiao, a native of the Philippines, as �a yellow chump,� and said �Once I stomp the midget, I�ll make that [expletive] make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice.� In addition, he said, �I�m going to cook that [expletive] with cats and dogs. Have some rice with a little barbecue dog.� He also referred to Pacquiao by using a derogatory slang term for a homosexual.

What's With This "The AFC West Is Wide Open" Chatter?

RhymesayersDU — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:24:19 GMT

I know I've been a Debbie Downer about the boys in blue lately. And maybe I'm biased because of my bleak outlook.

But the Chargers have a Top-5 QB and a good team. To me, it's still San Diego and then everybody else. Can someone explain to me why people think it's "wide open" and whatnot?

Battle of Wills: Washington Redskins Version

WhoIsJohnGalt — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 00:17:32 GMT

the $100M dollar fat man vs. the little Napoleon with laser beams for eyes.

round 3.

enjoy. :)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090403131.html